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Oooh, I love the idea of using the green as a revolutionary color! 'Cause definitely, having symbols and colors to rally behind is a great way to capture imagination.

And like you say, I just find it so unbelievable that the people aren't angry in canon. They should be positively spoiling for a good revolution, seriously. Especially because like you say, once Wall Maria came down, there's no more promise of safety - they're with their backs to the wall. Historically, people in that situation have done more with less resources, because when you know death is coming either way, many people will choose to at least TRY to fight.

What you say about educating the people is why I said that running a more communist-style revolution would probably work easier. You rally people with concepts that are easy to grasp, and give the power to those you want running the show. If the SL showed more transparency in terms of their actions, it would probably not be too difficult to rally people.

But even so, if the SL started their project long enough ago, they could work on disseminating concepts and information. They could have had this running for years, and something like ten years could be enough to get the populace more enthused about concepts of rights and freedom.

I do hope to write this fic at some point XD for added awesomeness - what if they started way earlier? Like, Erwin recruits Levi, only on the first mission things go to shit, he betrays them, and then escapes before his execution. What nobody knows is that he and Erwin struck a deal, and now Levi's running the show back in the Underground and coordinating with Erwin.

And then with Eren, when they find out he's a titan, they fake his death after Trost and send him to Levi to take care of.

And I saw you followed me :)))

I want to thank you and blunderbuss for discussion. The recent developments in the manga dissapoint me, what with the flimsy revolution plan and the irreasonable hatred of the survey corp. I refuse to believe that there isn't a small faction of the population that support them, especially the citizens that were in repeated danger from the titan attacks who saw them, It's not like they are that hard to recognize.
Your ideas are awesome and I would love to read it when you do write :)

I'd say that they didn't start the revolution earlier because they didn't realise just how bad the situation was. The government was corrupt and terrible, sure, but it's not like they have anything else to compare it to. Erwin suspected that the police killed his father, but that's flimsy evidence and could also be explained as a government not wanting a man spreading dangerous ideas.

When Wall Maria first fell, all anyone knew was that there was some new, special titans with unique abilities. There would have been more emphasis on learning more about the titans, and Hanji did this with Sweeny and Bean.

Eren revealing himself as a titan shifter changed everything. Before the scouting legion saw only the titans as the enemy. Now they realised that this means that titan shifters could be living among them. But even then this could be explained as a group outside the walls infiltrating their society to bring them down.

After they found the titans in the walls and the following events, the scouting legion, like the readers, slowly discover that there IS an internal conspiracy and it runs deeper and deeper with every new discovery. It's one thing to know about suspicion and corruption; it's another to know that your entire society is based on lies.

I'm not sure if you've read the Fullmetal Alchemist manga, but it followed a similar pattern. People knew that the military government was corrupt, but it took about 50+ issues to discover just how deep it ran and what it wanted to do. And honestly, that's how it SHOULD be done. Massive century-spanning conspiracies should only be discovered by picking up breadcrumbs, not discovering it all at once near the beginning.

I like your idea of a communist-style revolution; the walls are very clearly class-based, considering that the rich are in the 'safest' wall. If you capitalise on the people's anger of that and support giving power to the most vunerable, then that could easily work. And getting civilians to march on Wall Sina would make it easy for the scouting legion to slip into the palace and get answers.

Oh man, I'm actually inspired to draw some cool propaganda and protest posters and graffiti now.

Yeah, but wasn't Kaney in charge of some kind of hit squad? And Levi knew him. Therefore they should know that these things run deeper than it first seems.
Especially growing up how he did, I think it's really plausible that Levi would at least have some idea of there being a conspiracy behind the scenes. Working together with Erwin, they could have discovered real signs of corruption earlier. I mean, just look at how all the best soldiers are taken to the MP, and then they sit around doing nothing. It's clear they don't actually WANT to be able to fight titans, and that alone is kind of suspicious.

I think there's enough groundwork that it could be plausible that they've got this revolution being planned for a while now.

and omg, propaganda posters and graffiti! That would be amazing. Maybe when I write that fic it could be like a mini collab-y thing? Fics with images in them always look so cool. And propaganda posters would be great. ...regardless of the existence of the fic XD

It's true that Levi knew about sketchy goings-on but nearly every dictatorship has done things like assassinations and hit-squads. Killing anyone who could possibly pose a threat to the social order actually makes sense because any despot would naturally would want to control and maintain their power.

Having the best soldiers in Wall Sina also made sense, because any ruling class would put their welfare above everyone else even if that wasn't logical. Sad thing is, all the corruption and conspiracy could be easily explained away by human vices and pettiness.

And you're right that all of the above is grounds for a revolution, but that would be more about people's rights and the scouting legion is dedicated to fighting titans. The cast want to start their revolution to get answers on the titans.

However, you are correct that there should already be subversive elements already in play, whether it be minor nobles who want more of the pie or any members of the MP who actually want to serve their people (like Marco). The legion should be finding and teaming up with these people ASAP.

Yeah, I'm actually doing research on it now and have come up with some good ideas. I've always liked propaganda posters and it'll be a neat little art project. You're free to use the posters with your fic, but I can't promise that I can make some art especially for it when you write it; my health and home situation is a bit in flux right now.

Oh, please don't take it as any kind of demand - and hey, there isn't even a fic now, and who knows if there would be. But if someday there is, it could be cool to combine with propaganda posters and stuff XD but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. I was just kind of squeeing there, didn't mean to get all demanding, sorry >_<

I still think though, conceptually, there's enough stuff going on that Erwin might want to start having a revolution earlier, even if he doesn't yet know how deep and messed up the conspiracy is. They could have had some groundwork in place, only to realize that things are way worse than they'd imagined, what with titan shifters and Wall Maria and such.

Hahaha, that's cool! I'm working on some sketches now and I hope people will like them. :)

Y'know, now that I think about it, maybe the scouting legion IS a rebellion of sorts - all the people in it yearn to escape outside the walls. Maybe they think that once they discover more about the world and kill all the titans they can leave their shitty society behind?

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