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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-21 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2696 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2696 ⌋

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Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I can see some culturally militant Deaf saying this (and have had some Deaf people say this to me), but, eh, I'm too old to give a rat's behind anymore. Hearing people realize their mistake (the hard way) soon enough. :-P Haven't ever had any other oral deaf pull that one on me, though.

I will add, I am appalled that "hearing impaired" is apparently now the PC term of choice; those were fighting words, back in my day! Now the SJWs insist "hard of hearing" is worse. It's one word longer, dude, and that's what I identified as for the bulk of my life, which was three times as a long as yours has been up to now! (I address the hypothetical SJW here, not you, dethtoll.)

Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Honest question.

Why do some people capitalize deaf? Do deaf and Deaf have different connotations?

Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
As I understand it (and as a disclaimer, I'm speaking as an outsider here), lowercase-d deaf just refers to someone who can't hear (either at all or without prosthetics), but capital-D Deaf refers to someone who identifies as part of Deaf culture -- which exists, since they have a distinct language and experience of the world. Presumably not everyone who cannot hear identifies as part of Deaf culture.

Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
OP of the question here. Thanks for the explanation!

Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Capitalized-D-Deaf means the person grew up in Deaf culture, i.e., they mostly always communicated through sign language, may or may not have used assistive listening devices, attended a Deaf (residential) school, and basically spent all of their lives around people in the same situation.

In the '70s (when I was growing up) and in the '80s (when I assume dethtoll was growing up) there was a big push to "assimilate" the Deaf, so kids were brought up what's known as "oral" or "auditory-verbal therapy" i.e., hearing aids as soon as possible, speech therapy up to and sometimes throughout school, absolutely no sign language whatsoever (actively discouraged), and I believe they may teach speechreading now, but when I was growing up, it was considered part and parcel of something that would come naturally, with the hearing aids/being mainstreamed. Which is known as small-d-deaf, and can also include the "deafened" or "late-deafened" i.e., adults who lose their hearing later in life.

And, yeah, being mainstreamed in the 1970s sucked hairy balls (no IEPs or classroom helpers then!), and even though I would have had a much narrower life and way fewer options than I have had, and I wouldn't have anything approaching the life I have now, I sometimes wish I had grown up Deaf, instead of growing up deaf. If that makes any sense.

That said, if I had grown up Deaf, I likely would have ended up in one of the worst/most abusive residential schools for the Deaf here in Canada, so the grass isn't always greener. I'm a pretty tough character, as a result of the garbage I got put through in school, so all in all, it had its advantages.

...sorry, that was a bit long, wasn't it? Anyway. Capital-D-Deaf is someone who uses sign language exclusively, and who may or may not interact with the hearing community through a terp (interpreter), and interacts mostly with the Deaf community/other signers. Small-d-deaf is someone who may have very little or no residual hearing, but we still participate in hearing society, don't usually sign (or at least not well), and speak/speechread. HTH

Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Capital-D-Deaf is someone who uses sign language exclusively, and who may or may not interact with the hearing community through a terp (interpreter), and interacts mostly with the Deaf community/other signers.

That just seems ridiculously limiting to me. What do they do if they end up in a situation where there aren't any other signers or interpreters? Do they just never interact with the majority of the world?

Re: "I am not your label"

(Anonymous) 2014-05-22 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Question asker here. Thanks for the explanation!