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⌈ Secret Post #2697 ⌋

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I'm not sure I have any great speculations, but I find a few things fascinating.


- the overwhelming number of girls and women in online fandom communities
- the giant slash fanbase
- fanfic/fandom tropes that keep coming back in pretty much every fandom. Like how "angst" and "hurt/comfort" are genres in fanfic, while not so much in original fiction.

I'm not sure I have an explanation for that, but there seems to be a subset of women who really enjoy similar types of erotica and relationship dynamics, and I find that interesting.

There aren't an overwhelming number of girls and women in online fandom communities qua online fandom communities. You're referring to a specific subset of all online fandom communities. You have a good reason for doing this - because we do use the term "fandom" to refer to this subset - but you are referring to a subset, because if you think about it, 4chan is part of online fandom communities. Every video game forum and D&D forum and den of iniquity on the net is part of online fandom. The subset that you're talking about is the subset of fandom that's constructed and constituted primarily by women and girls, and that's more or less why there's an overwhelming number of women and girls there. But you have an entire other half of fandom that's largely male. It tends to operate differently and interact with media differently than this half of fandom - much less likely to create fanworks, much more likely to eg get into arguments about the functioning of the internal rules of a work of media. This subset of fandom has its concerns and its internal modes of social interaction and modes of performing fandom, and so does the other subset.

there's a WHOLE OTHER WORLD OUT THERE i've never experienced wow

no really this is fascinating, now i want to go undercover in fandom as a guy and take lots of notes on their behaviour

"and here we see the brony in its natural habitat..."

I've been on video game boards - nothing wrong with them. Even got decent advice there every now and then. There's also places where it's more about meta discussion than the shipping aspect, which is also pretty interesting.

What's hilarious is that a lot of those guys don't believe that there are any female fans. Like, they literally don't. So every time I see a fangirl like you (no offense intended) amazed to discover that there are male fans, I feel a certain amusement at the symmetry of the universe. :)

Yeah, fanficcers don't rule fandom, they just tend to act like they do.

"The subset that you're talking about is the subset of fandom that's constructed and constituted primarily by women and girls, and that's more or less why there's an overwhelming number of women and girls there."</>

Nicely phrased, but circular logic. The question remains, which is a good question, why these subsets of fandom are split along gender lines, when there's really no real reason for this to be.

actually, i would say that angst is pretty much ALL OVER original fiction. like, everything has some angst in it - it's conflict, it's what makes stories interesting.

hurt/comfort though... hmm not so much, though i do think it may crop up in romance novels? like the hero gets hurt and needs to be nursed back to health by the heroine, that sorta thing.

Well, yes, it has angst IN them, but it seems like in a lot of fanfic it's the entire point of the story - something people get off on on some level, if not sexually then emotionally.

You might be right about the romance novels - I haven't really read enough of them to properly comment.

but it seems like in a lot of fanfic it's the entire point of the story - something people get off on on some level, if not sexually then emotionally.

This is litfic, basically. And Chekhov. And Russian plays/literature in general. NO ONE GETS OUT UNSCATHED. it's like a massive wankfest of misery and destruction.

Good point, actually.

I quite honestly believe that this paper explains 90% of fandom: http://www2.edutech.nodak.edu/ndsta/beto.htm

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