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This. (Though I did watch season 4, and didn't particularly enjoy it. The new characters weren't all terrible but I was just bitter about Tosh, Owen and Ianto being gone, and couldn't warm up to any of them properly. I don't think you miss much by not watching that season.)

Yeah, someone told me the fourth season was good, but I was skeptical. It would take a lot for me to warm up to brand new characters, especially being so bitter about not having Tosh, Owen and Ianto. I don't think the writing is capable of holding me for its plot alone, so meh.

Still can't get over Ianto's death in particular. At least Tosh and Owen's death was well done. Why the heck did Ianto die? Why did Jack decide to infiltrate that gov't building, all badass, for the sake of... idk, threatening the aliens? without any actual capability or plan of action? wtf.

It was also very hard for me to cheer for Jack when he killed his grandson, too. I got what they were trying to do and all - tough decisions, etc etc - but seriously. Just no.

Yeah, someone told me the fourth season was good, but I was skeptical.

Well...I feel like it could've been worse, but the ten episodes wasn't enough for me to grow overtly attached to any of the characters, and by the end of it I was just watching to see what happened, not so much because I was enjoying it. I felt very meh about it, and when it ended I thought to myself, "They should probably quit here."

IA about Tosh and Owen's deaths. Not saying I approve, but they were absolutely heartbreaking and beautifully written. Very effective, and memorable; Ianto's death just seemed superfluous to me.

You have an excellent point... I think stopping before COE would be the best thing to do, if one is going to watch Torchwood in the first place. But since there's so much pain (and believe me, I love pain, but this...) I'm not even sure I would recommend watching it at all.

The fourth season is not good, despite a cool premise. I was sad about Ianto's death but CoE was so well-made and brilliant that I couldn't fault it and that wasn't going to make me stop watching.

Miracle Day was so terrible, though. I almost stopped watching it after two episodes because it was one of the worst things I've ever seen on TV, except that my friend was recapping it and the recaps were more hilarious if you'd watched the show first.

are those recaps public? Could you link them? They sound fun.

They are here.

I thought it was really shocking, it made the other three series look like King Lear. When they got to the giant vagina. Oh dear.

I'd forgotten/blocked out the giant vagina. That was AMAZING.

CoE is the most frustrating series, for me. It was so well made, but mostly composed of idiot balls. In the first two series I don't mind it so much, because it feels like it's supposed to be idiot-ball based, but CoE is so slick and perfect and hinges on someone thinking it was a good idea to blow up the only person who's dealt with this threat before, and an active military base with unknown weaponry at the same time, just as a crisis develops and they need to keep the public calm. Just stupid. It was pretty obviously a show he wanted to make that he had to shoe-horn Torchwood into to get into production, just like Torchwood was a show he wanted to make about Gwen but had to add Jack to.

The Fact that they made a child rapist/murderer be the so - called answer to plot didn't exactly entice me to watch S4 either.

It still stumps me that someone said, "Hey, let's add a pedo to the cast" and everyone went, "Alright". He was a terrible person and an utterly disgusting character. I think he died at the end, but just having him be in so much of the season was incredibly unpleasant.

SA

NGL, the child rapist/murderer angle was a big reason I didn't care to seek out Miracle Day beyond the first episode. As somebody who is a child rape survivor, it's probably the closest to a true trigger that I have, and I really couldn't deal with it. Like you said, who the hell thought that was a good idea?

I'm sorry you had to go through that anon. I don't know how the network let them run with it but I don't blame you for not finishing. (I haven't hated a character that much in...pretty much ever.)

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