[ SECRET POST #2700 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2700 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 099 secrets from Secret Submission Post #386.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

People see nothing wrong with consuming the product of a writer's efforts (hours and hours of labor, if not more), but they won't spend a minute of their time to tell them so.

Yes, and? That's how fandom's supposed to work; you put into it what you want, and hopefully whatever you put into it helps the system keep running well enough that it continues to give you what you want in return.

Now, me personally, I write fic, I moderate a couple of communities, I participate in fannish discussions on DW and LJ, I run the occasional fic exchange, I leave kudos on fic, and I very rarely comment on fic. Someone else might create vids and comment frequently on fic. A third person might create icons, record podfic, and post episode reactions (and never comment on fic). And so on. All of us are contributing to and sustaining the fannish gift economy.

I certainly like getting comments on my fic, but my primary reward for participating in fandom is fandom. I spend hours and hours writing fic for other people to read; they spend hours and hours writing fic for me to read (or creating vids for me to watch, or icons for me to use, or etc.). It balances out.

You might point out at this juncture that for some fic writers, receiving comments is the only reward they require for fandom to feel worthwhile for them, and that if they don't get enough comments, they're liable to pack up their toys and go home. Which is true, as far as it goes, but that's also how fandom's supposed to work. This is a hobby; if it's not fun anymore, then you should stop doing it.

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Now, me personally, I write fic, I moderate a couple of communities, I participate in fannish discussions on DW and LJ, I run the occasional fic exchange, I leave kudos on fic, and I very rarely comment on fic. Someone else might create vids and comment frequently on fic. A third person might create icons, record podfic, and post episode reactions (and never comment on fic). And so on. All of us are contributing to and sustaining the fannish gift economy.

Not true. At the end of the day, you're all putting stuff out there and hoping desperately that someone will respond. None of you is perpetuating the "gift" economy that you're talking about.

If there's no "consumer" and no "intersection of supply and demand" (which is where the price that the market will bear is found) then there's no economy. And the "intersection"/price in fandom is some sort of response/interaction. If no one "pays" for what they consume, then there's literally no economy. (Even in barter or exchange economy, someone is paying for something with something else.)

You can talk about how "fandom" is your primary reward but would you run any of those communities or exchanges if no one responded or participated? Of course not. If no one responded to your meta (or acknowledged you when you jumped it), you wouldn't post meta. And you wouldn't write twenty-eight fics if not a single one got feedback. The reality is that you need validation and audience participation just as much as OP does. OP is just more honest (and specific) about their needs.