[ SECRET POST #2701 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2701 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Almighty Johnsons]


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03.
[X-Men Evolution]


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04.
[The Dreaming Machine]


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05.
[Parasol Protectorate]


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06.
[Benedict Cumberbatch, Tom Hiddleston, Interview with the Vampire]


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07.
[Marvel Disc Wars: The Avengers]


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08.
[Orphan Black]


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09.
[Team Fortress 2]


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10.
[Severus Snape, Gerard Way]


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11.
[Neil Patrick Harris/Ramin Karimloo (Les Misérables/Hedwig and the Angry Inch)]


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12.
[Gakuen babysitters]


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13.
[The Walking Dead Game]


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14.
[Billie Piper, Penny Dreadful]


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15.
[Sherlock]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 084 secrets from Secret Submission Post #386.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 'mra' shooter

[diet_poison]

Rodger seems to have inspired at least one copycat which doesn't strike me as a mental illness problem at all.

Really? Why else would you copy something like that? For someone who's as unstable as he was, it's just the inspiration they need.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Not everyone who engages in ideological violence has a history of mental illness. Sometimes, they're just thugs.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[diet_poison]

Really? Wouldn't you have to be at least sociopathic to be okay with going to a crowded place and shooting as many people as possible? I really don't think a mentally stable person would go out and plan on killing people unless they have some kind of empathy disorder.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[cbrachyrhynchos]

No, because there's a whole thing of human beings rationalizing those actions in terms of political martyrdom, honor, or justifiable homicide in war. Far from being irrational and disordered, they are highly rational and driven by a wrong sense of justice.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[diet_poison]

Ok, I see where you're coming from. But I think situations like that arise more from toxic cultures that perpetuate those kinds of values. idk about other places but most mass shootings in the US have come from people who had serious mental issues.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I think we do have a toxic culture that perpetuates those values, as witnessed by the fact that paranoid schizophrenia, murder-suicide, and "death-by-cop" are disproportionately American problems. Mental illness is, in part, socially constructed. There's no mental illness daemon which says, "kill your roommates and shoot up a sorority." A mental illness may jack up the emotions (there's nothing like waking up in the morning scared of nothing) or reduce inhibitions, but it doesn't usually point the finger.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[diet_poison]

I'm a little bit confused now by your point. Are you arguing about whether mental illnesses cause problems like this, or how?

Re: 'mra' shooter

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Both actually. Mental illness isn't necessary (see Eric Rudolph as a key counter-example) and it's not an explanatory cause. Even in the United States, the primary correlation between mental illness and crime is that people with mental illnesses are disproportionately victims, not disproportionately perpetrators.

Re: 'mra' shooter

[diet_poison]

I'd say Rudolph is a case of someone who was exposed to toxic culture. Also, I'm not sure that he definitively wasn't mentally ill.

the primary correlation between mental illness and crime is that people with mental illnesses are disproportionately victims, not disproportionately perpetrators

This is true, but it's beside the point. When looking at the pool of perpetrators, what unifies them?

Mental illness is a very, very broad concept with a variety of variables. The vast majority of people who are mentally ill will never commit an atrocious crime. It's certain kinds of mental illness combined with other factors that can set off something like this, I think.