[ SECRET POST #2704 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2704 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 022 secrets from Secret Submission Post #386.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP but what does that have to do with anything? Especially given the hero of the story who tried to stop Hydra is the ultimate American.

I smell xenophobia.

[(Anonymous)]

Do I need to list all the terrible things America has done in the name of freedom?

[(Anonymous)]

And that has to do fuck all with this secret because...? Again, this is about a movie that is about American heroes defeating a foreign born threat. Why would OP be American?

Unless you wrote this secret and was hoping to start wank. And since I am the only idiot biting, you've yanked the rod up hoping to reel me in.

Yeah, you are a troll. And I am just going to walk away. No more responses from me no matter what you say.

[(Anonymous)]

{different anon}

They're probably asking because the evil master plan in CATWS is a rather unsubtle allegory for the American government's policies concerning combat drones and the NSA in recent years.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, it's based on storylines/concepts from the comics which really predate the drone and NSA controversies.

[(Anonymous)]

The Winter Soldier himself, sure, but the algorythm+helicarrier plan? That would be news to me. (Not that I don't believe something like it might be in the comics somewhere, just that my knowledge of comics canon is really limited, and it's such a huge and ancient medium I'm sure eveything's been done at least once.) But either way, it's not like the relevance to current affairs is a coincidence. The powers that be have said it themselves, it's a deliberate commentary. (I know how annoying it is to withhold source after a claim like that, but I honestly don't know where my link to that interview went.)

Aanyway, the question of the hour was "why would you say that, thread-OP?", so. *shrug* That was my best bet.

[(Anonymous)]

I know how annoying it is to withhold source after a claim like that, but I honestly don't know where my link to that interview went.

Is this what you're thinking of?

http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2014/04/captain-america-winter-soldier-obama-kill-list-politics-drones-nsa

[(Anonymous)]

My knowledge of comics canon is, when it comes to Captain America, pretty comprehensive.

To clarify: the specific plan of unmanned-systems-targeting-potential-threats is not really from the comics, and does work as a metaphor for the unchecked U.S. "national security" apparatus that's been going increasingly crazy since 2001 if not before.

However, the fundamental structure of the story, i.e. Captain America discovering that the very government/authority that he's loyal to is corrupt, and having to fight to oppose his allies and preserve principle over power, is one of Cap's fundamental stories, having happened again and again in various guises over the decades.

And yes, the original Secret Empire storyline was, quite distinctly and explicitly, a metaphor for Watergate and the profound sense of loss and betrayal that it created in many Americans.

[arcadiaego]

I wish it had actually gone with that instead of chickening out and making sure all the 'good guys' were completely absolved and the villain was someone we'd never heard of before.

[(Anonymous)]

And not all Americans are of one mind. Or do you even pay attention to anything on the news but one that feeds into your own biased world view?

[(Anonymous)]

Cry more Hamburgerfat.

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck you, nazi muslim terrorist.