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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-29 07:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #2704 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2704 ⌋

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elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - WS (gun))

Re: Bit OT. Ok, lot OT.

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-30 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
He doesn't really know any better. He's...well, mostly a blank slate. (All he knows to do is follow orders.)

But at the same time he must think he's doing the right thing because of the way Pierce talked to him; he still somehow was lead to believe that he was being helpful and good, so maybe some deep part of Bucky recognized and held onto that when he didn't know anything else. So even if he could rebel (which he probably wouldn't do anyway, because he's been broken so badly), he might not.

This entire movie was just massively depressing and messed up.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-05-30 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Not saying he should have rebelled. It made me ill since he didn't because he couldn't, psychologically-speaking.

Plus the screams*. Again, pain. He knows there is going to be pain. He flinches when the restraints snap into place, but he's a passive party because in his fucked up, brainwashed, PTSD state he has no idea that he can do anything different.

*Part of me wants to know if that was Sebastian Stan, or if they were dubbed it.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - WS (slide))

Re: AYRT

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-30 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yea, I got ya. I didn't think you were saying he should have, just that he couldn't. Which is obviously what makes that scene so terrible - he has no choice in the matter.

They might've been dubbed in later? (I imagine they were Stan, though.) But...who knows, either way they're heartbreaking. I hope there's plenty of discussion about that scene on the commentary, or maybe in a special feature or something.
Edited 2014-05-30 03:14 (UTC)

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-05-30 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I would accept Sebastian Stan talking about all of his Bucky feels, period. Because if what we've heard so far is correct, he's pretty much playing it in the exact way I thought it should be played, if The Winter Soldier was adapted to the MCU Bucky/Steve dynamic.

I also really, really, really want a special feature talking about the fight choreography for the elevator scene.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Nat (profile))

Re: AYRT

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-30 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they would release a DVD without some sort of Bucky feature featuring Stan, because even if he isn't the main antagonist he's part of what drives Steve in this film, and will continue to from here on out. So he's certainly important and I'm sure they know people are interested, too.

I want features for all the fight scenes, lol. The knife fight especially, but I'd love to see Nat and Bucky's fight too, and then the elevator and maybe bits of the ship at the first of the film... I just loved the action in this movie so damn much and could pretty much gleefully watch it all day.
Edited (EDITED TO ADD: I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING THOUGH TODAY WITHOUT RANTING ABOUT THIS DAMN FILM. FML. ) 2014-05-30 04:12 (UTC)

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-05-30 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've ranted about it every day since April 9th.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Steve (casuals))

Re: AYRT

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-30 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I have talked about it every day since I saw it too, which is ridiculous. The majority of my fs comments have been about it. Almost all the fic I've read since then has been Captain America. Marvel should be paying us for this shit. (Granted, no one probably went to see the movie solely because of me, but I still want money.)

Not that talking about Cap isn't its own reward, mind.
kallanda_lee: (james buchanan barnes)

Re: AYRT

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-30 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
The whole scene was him basically accepting both psychological and physical pain willingly. Basically he's been utterly broken and manipulated.