[ SECRET POST #2704 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2704 ⌋

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Comments

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

Try this.

A person was savaged by a dog. They survived. No matter how much you reassure this person that most dogs are perfectly tame and safe, that doesn't make their experiences vanish. They are still going to be wary of dogs.

See? No poisoned candy, no racism, no reference to a moronic "game" (which reference, by its very nature, implies that any woman who takes a chance with any man is fucking stupid/crazy.)

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

In the same vein one could say that implying all men are dogs implies men are not human. See? Arguing over semantics detracts from the purpose of the analogy in the first place, which is to give a visual aid to a topic that is extremely complex.

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

When the visual aid creates inflammatory visions in the minds of the people you're trying to explain things to, it doesn't help your cause.

If you want people to understand by using analogy, you're going to have to make a comparison. And an animal attack and a "man" attack have more in common than the hypothetical poison candy and a "man" attack.

Also, it's something that people are more likely to grasp, simply because a lot of people will have known someone who doesn't auto-trust dogs (or it might be cats, or even bees) because of a bad childhood experience with a bad dog.

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

This analogy is one of many things created from the YesAllWomen hashtag, which is seen as inflammatory by certain men in general, not just because of candy. When your first assumption is to start shouting about men in a conversation about women, then it isn't the candies that are the issue. It is akin to a white person shouting that not all Caucasians are racist in a conversation about PoC's experiences under an establishment stacked against them. It simply derails from the message, to placate the feelings of those in a position of power.

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not shouting about any person, I'm shouting about inept analogies that just make things worse.

I don't believe the dog thing is an inapt as the M&M one or the (good lord) Russian roulette one.

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

There is no analogy that can calm the hurt fee-fees of a group of people who will never know what it's like to look for a college and have to cross check rape statistics, or be shamed every which way for their own sexuality.

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

Wahhwahh, men feel insulted and left out of a movement about women's personal stories with sexism. We must derail the conversation, that isn't about males in general, to comfort them. Because when women talk about their own rape stories or sexual harassment, the thing that should be taken away is, Buhh wuh abuut manzzz!

Re: muh M&Ms

[quirkytizzy]

You sound just like my ex, Anon. However, I don't think he has a DW account, nor is he into fandom. But reading your comments is making me ever so grateful that I finally dumped his ass. Five years was too long to live with someone like you.

Re: muh M&Ms

[(Anonymous)]

That just drives home the point that not all dogs will savage you.

Kinda funny how that dumb metaphor allowed people to start arguing about it, instead of focusing on the actual issue? How about just dropping it.