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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-01 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2707 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2707 ⌋

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cushlamochree: o malley color (Default)

Re: Fingersmith Discussion

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-06-01 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an interesting point.

I don't think the story can possibly be a critique of erotica as such, given the ending, and given that the book is not lacking in erotic moments for itself. At the same time, its portrayal of Lilly and his friends is definitely not positive - none of the men associated with erotica in the book come off well at all. IE, that specific kind of erotica, and the obsessive cataloging interest in erotica, in a society that gives so little agency to women, is harmful. It reduces women to objects, entrenches them in their accustomed roles, etc. So it's bad as part of a larger social context but not intrinsically. Just a thought tho.

God, though. Lilly. Such a hateable character. Just gave me the creeps constantly when I was reading stuff to do with him.
inevitableentresol: a Victorian gentleman with the body of a carrot (Default)

Re: Fingersmith Discussion

[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-06-01 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't miss the irony of the terrible effects of the men's obsession with erotica being in a book which in itself is quite erotic. I liked the layering of that, but it bent my brains a little.

Standing back, it's clear that Maud is damaged by the social context of the erotica and how it is forced upon her rather than the erotica itself, but in the middle of the story, the two did start to feel interwoven.