[ SECRET POST #2708 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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03.
[The Cinema Snob]

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04.
[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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05.
[Silicon Valley]


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06.
[Xavier Dolan]


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07.
[Pacific Rim]


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08.
[Sailor Moon]


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09.
[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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12.
[K-pop]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is true. However, none of it is said by Jesus, and I don't think any of it even comes from the Gospels (could be wrong there, though). So it's not all that hard to just say "Paul was an asshole" and move on.

[(Anonymous)]

Was he ever.

[sarillia]

That's my take on it. Paul seemed to hate everything. Except Jesus. Although I did talk with someone who told me about some interesting interpretations of his books. I keep meaning to look into that more.

[(Anonymous)]

And it is also possible to say that the NT stuff refers to temple rape/rape of young boys (which was the majority of the sex acts between males in the ancient world anyway. It isn't like Greece/Rome were gay friendly. They were just okay with raping boys) and the OT stuff, given that it is surrounded by various cleanliness laws, was really about cleanliness and health in the ancient world, and not actually about gay people.

And really, there is nothing at all in the Bible about homosexuality as an orientation. Nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

And really, there is nothing at all in the Bible about homosexuality as an orientation. Nothing.

I can't comment on the society that produced the OT, but the NT largely came out of Greco-Roman society, which didn't have any real concept of homosexuality as an orientation the way we do. The prevailing understanding of sexuality was concerned with the individual act, and whether the man in question was 'active' or 'passive'. Fucking a man was considered pretty much the same as fucking a woman - only being fucked was different. There seems to have been some awareness of men who weren't interested in women at all and just liked to be fucked by other men, but that was regarded as more of a wacky fetish (and a serious failure of manhood) than anything else.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not all that hard, if you want to be burned at the stake by Evangelicals. Very few of them will even admit the authorship of some of the letters attributed to Paul is suspect!

[diet_poison]

:O source on this? I've never heard that

[(Anonymous)]

There is wide consensus, in modern New Testament scholarship, on a core group of authentic Pauline epistles whose authorship is rarely contested: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon. Several additional letters bearing Paul's name lack academic consensus: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy, and Titus. Scholarly opinion is sharply divided on whether the former two epistles are the letters of Paul; however, the latter four - 2 Thessalonians, as well as the three known as the "Pastoral Epistles" - have been labeled pseudepigraphical works by most critical scholars.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Pauline_epistles

[diet_poison]

Correct. Jesus and the Gospels have no mention of homosexuality or gay sex/relationships.

I don't know if I would call Paul an asshole, but he was a) an imperfect human and b) a product of his time. Context is important, yo. And while I think some of the things he says are wise, people aren't comfortable with admitting that the stuff wrote was stuff he wrote and not divinely inspired.

Mini-rant time: people claim all of the Bible was inspired because it refers to itself as "the Word" and all that, but the Bible as we know it didn't exist when those passages were taken, including probably most or all of the Letters (for the passage in John I'm thinking of). Each book or letter can refer only to itself and perhaps others of a set, because they were written independently, and compiled (much, much) later by humans who argued about what should be included and what not.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're the first Christian online who is speaking about their faith in a way that makes me think "Hey, I like the way you rock your faith" without first finding out if you're agnostic or not. Very cool, very level-headed, very respectful stuff!