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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-02 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2708 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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03.
[The Cinema Snob]

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[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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[Silicon Valley]


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[Xavier Dolan]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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[K-pop]










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(Anonymous) 2014-06-02 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really relevant to the secret, though. Let's use one of your examples: if someone believes that they cannot wear fabric with mixed fibers, is that silly? Yes. Is it unChristian? No. Because it's in the Bible, and regardless of whether or not this person believes/follows ALL the Bible laws, their choice to follow this specific one (rational or not) is perfectly consistent with what the Bible says they ought to do.
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[personal profile] ypsilon42 2014-06-02 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The secret talked about admiring someone for their beliefs being consistent with what the bible says. I pointed out, how most of the people claiming to be consistent, aren't really, but instead are picking those pieces that fit their believes. I don't see how that is not relevant?

Also I never said being homophobic is unchristian, just that the OP is overestimating the amount of anti-gay in the bible because at least to my knowledge, most of the things people cite are pretty ambiguous.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-02 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to believe this, but I'm not really seeing the ambiguity of "surely shall be put to death". :(
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[personal profile] ypsilon42 2014-06-03 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I am no expert on the bible, but below someone posted a link discussing the translation of Leviticus in detail and there is a threat about how it could relate to idolatry. Also it is important to keep in mind that Leviticus is putting up a lot of rules that were relevant to society back when he wrote it, but many of those are just not relevant to society as it is today (for example the mixed fabrics one). We can alway consider the one about homosexuality to be one of those.

So maybe it is not exactly an uplifting passage, but at least in my opinion it is not as clear cut as some people seem to believe.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
The ambiguity is what exactly it's condemning.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Picking and choosing which parts of the Bible to follow is not consistent, though.

But even if it were, then it would still be worth pointing out to the OP that Robertson doesn't follow everything that the Bible says, which would put him on even footing with people who choose not to follow the passages about homosexuality, and which would therefore invalidate the claim that he's a true Christian and those other people are not.

In other words, if we're going by your logic, then OP can't say that pro-LGBTQ Christians are not true Christians. And if we're going by the logic that a Christian must be consistent (e.g. not pick and choose), then OP can't say that Robertson is a true Christian. OP is wrong either way.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-06-03 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
At the very least, if people are going to ignore the mixed fibres rule, then they should ignore the possibly anti-gay text in Leviticus and only use texts from other areas.

I do however think that one very good reason why a lot of Mosaic law can be ignored is because we now understand why they are good ideas. Putting items through fire to clean them, or boiling water if they would survive fire, to our modern society sounds like basic hygiene practices.

I usually presume the mixed fibres rule was because in Moses' time they didn't know how to process fibres properly to make mixed-fibre fabrics safe.