[ SECRET POST #2708 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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03.
[The Cinema Snob]

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04.
[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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05.
[Silicon Valley]


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[Xavier Dolan]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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[K-pop]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The Holy Spirit worked THROUGH Paul, just like it worked through the other writers. And The Holy Spirit, God the Father, and Jesus Christ are all the same being. This is basic stuff. To say you follow Christ and then dismiss the writings of one of Christ's MAJOR followers doesn't make any sense.

Also, why the hell would God let something be put in his Holy book if he didn't agree with it? If God doesn't have a problem with homosexuality, surely Paul saying "homosexuality is wrong" in God's name would inspire him to maybe say "Hey Paul, I didn't say that, take it out"? Or find some other way of making sure it didn't end up in the book?

[(Anonymous)]

Trolololololol.

[diet_poison]

I never said I dismiss the writings of Paul. I said I'm a Christian, not a Paulian, and by that I mean I don't elevate the words of Paul above the words of Christ. I think Paul had a lot of really good things to say, but ultimately he was a man.

Where is your proof that the Spirit was working any more in Paul than He is in people today? Because people today still make mistakes and say bad things even when their intentions are good.

Also, as others have clarified: Paul didn't definitively say "homosexuality is wrong"

[(Anonymous)]

But the Bible makes it pretty clear that only people who accept Christ are given the Holy Spirit as a gift from God? Until you become a believer, you don't even have it. So good intentions =/= having the Holy Spirit.

Also, Paul's writings were identified by Peter as scripture in 2 Peter 3:16: "as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."

And in 2 Timothy 3:16, Paul says: "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;"

And Jesus himself said that his apostles would be given special inspiration by the Holy Spirit in John 14:26: "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."

And lastly, Isaiah 8:14-22 prophesied that the law and testimony of God would be sealed up with the followers of Jesus. That alone pretty much puts them on a level above today's Christians.

As for "Paul didn't definitively say 'homosexuality is wrong'", I posted an explanation above from a friend who knows his Greek. Paul used "men in bed" in a sexual context, so I think it's kind of obvious what he was saying?

[thezmage]

In the same incident in two separate gospels, Jesus says pretty explicitly that if the deeds are good then they are inspired by the Holy Spirit. "He who is not against us is for us."

[diet_poison]

But the Bible makes it pretty clear that only people who accept Christ are given the Holy Spirit as a gift from God? Until you become a believer, you don't even have it. So good intentions =/= having the Holy Spirit.

I was not making the argument that people have the Holy Spirit if they haven't accepted Him (that's an entirely different discussion). I'm making the argument that even Christians who have accepted Christ aren't perfect people and are not working via the Spirit 100% of the time.

Ok, Peter said that and Timothy said that. They're still men.

Jesus said that the Spirit would be with His disciples...does that mean everything they say or write becomes perfect? I don't see any logical reason to believe it must be so. A possibility, but not a definitive.

Paul's words on homosexuality may or may not have been referring to consensual homosexual relationships between adults, since those didn't exist back in the day nearly as much as temple rape and child rape of boys. :/