[ SECRET POST #2710 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2710 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[firstmoonie]

I think OP points that out with showing the problematic panel in secret. :)

Also they did this so he'd never become Flash again. Which is entirely problematic on its own.

[likeadeuce]

And again, I fail to see why OP would think that a critique of problematic racial portrayals would be automatically derided as 'racist!' except that this community has constructed a bizarre monolith of 'social justice warriors' as people who are incapable of reading complete sentences. Anyone who spends more than 3 seconds in a so-called SJW-influenced forum would note that criticisms of the way characters of color are portrayed in media is the kind of thing that gets discussed *all the time*. In fact, I guarantee that if OP had made a post that said "I think the way that DC portrays the new Wally is racist" then people would be piling on to call them an oversensitive SJW.

There is some serious mirror universe logic here.

(Also the idea that SJW's are invested in defending *new 52 DC comics*? LOL no.

[firstmoonie]

Oh I agree that OP put it in the wrong way but as someone who followed loyally Flash till that awful Annual, I understood the reference s/he was trying to make.

There is also the fact that they changed a "ginger", a very rare male example in comics not a blonde or brunette and it's hard to swallow. Most of his hardcore fans are also drawn to his looks after all. I think people has to be given a understanding there.

It's not SJWs it seems but DC is handwaving criticsm by using "race card". I've given my concerns to creators which I got reply as "he is an angry kid, he makes mistakes". They seem to have very VERY little knowledge on character and how his white version would have reacted to this. Wally had an abusive father and a weak mother yet he still kept hope thanks to Iris. So when the race change hits, the wrongs are more blatant.

There is just so much to talk on the issue but nobody gives a damn about anyone not related to Batfamily so issue is only reflecting to sales of book.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I think the disconnect may be that you're thinking this has got to be about actual social justice-minded people. It's not. It's about overly invested fans who get upset when a character they like is criticized.

I'm trying to think of another way to put it.

People on a Social Justice-Oriented Forum:
-will discuss problematic portrayals of women and POCs in fiction
-are not apt to call someone racist unless they do or say something that comes across as racist

Overly Invested Fans on a Fan Forum:
-get upset when someone points out that a portrayal is problematic (or, well...at any criticism at all)
-are apt to say things like "you're just jealous;" "well what have YOU written;" "you're not famous so obviously you don't know anything;" "you just don't like her because she's a woman;" "you just don't like him because he's black."

[likeadeuce]

I am pretty skeptical that there are over-invested fans who are really into reboot Wally based on like one comic he has been in, but I guess that anything is possible.