[ SECRET POST #2714 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2714 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah see, what is rape culture? Because as far as I know, rape in the US culture is probably the most evil thing someone can do. Look at TV shows, a character could murder hundreds of people but meh. If they rape someone? *MAN THE PITCHFORKS*

Are there groups of people who may try to cover up rape/make it seem like it is not as bad as it is [Stubenville]? Yes. But there are also groups of people who try to cover up a murder depending on who the murderer or cannibalism. And those people are seen by the rest of the nations as terrible, terrible people.

The only other thing I can think of are people complaining about 'rape jokes' and how they encourage rapists. And that is one the dumbest things I have heard.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[diet_poison]

Rape jokes make me really uncomfortable and they normalize something that isn't acceptable. For the record, I'm not fond of murder jokes either. But murder is much more universally decried than rape, ime. Certainly on parts of the internet there's a huge focus on rape, but also on other parts of the internet there are people literally rationalizing rape. and culture offline is another thing too.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, they make you uncomfortable. So what? There are rape survivors who use rape jokes to help them get over their trauma (just like cancer survivors or disaster survivors). And the idea that rape jokes normalize rape is asinine. That is the same argument people use about video games causing violence. And if a virtual murder simulator doesn't cause violence, a joke won't cause someone to rape. Nor will it normalize it.

And I wasn't even talking about the internet. In the US, rape is despised. It is socially and politically despised.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[diet_poison]

Interestingly, 99% of the people I've ever heard make rape jokes are guys. Maybe some have been rape survivors, but probably not most.

Unfortunately I don't have a particular anecdote that I remember but I know some people are really offended by them and I doubt all survivors are okay with them. I do not think I'd be if I were one. I am kind of interested in seeing who uses them to cope with trauma, though. I've never heard of that.

In the US, rape is despised.

I would like to live in your version of the US.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

And some rape survivors (like this one) are made anxious, made afraid, and silenced by rape jokes, so cut the bullshit.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

There's a lot of lip service paid to how horrible rape and rapists are... until the rapists happen to be 'desirable' members of society, like a famous director or a bunch of teenager jocks. Then they close ranks protectively around the rapists and excuse them and shun the victims.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, you very obviously have no idea what people are talking about when they refer to rape culture. Maybe do some reading.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Explain it to me since you know allll about it.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Here's the problem, though, and this is what's important:

THE "RAPE IS A SPECIAL KIND OF EVIL" TROPE PERPETUATES RAPE CULTURE

Because when people want to excuse rape, they don't (ever) say "rape is okay." They say "Well, that wasn't really rape."

Because Rape Is A Special Kind Of Evil, and rapists are all evil, unrepentant monsters. We've been told this a million times.

Therefore, if someone you know and like is accused of rape, then it must not be true. It must not have really been rape, because this person isn't an evil unrepentant monster. And that's where the excuses come in.

When we require monsterhood for rape, we guarantee that people will not see rape.

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[diet_poison]

I have never thought about it this way and this is a really interesting take.