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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-08 03:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2714 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2714 ⌋

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dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-06-09 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. The "men should stop rape" movement as I saw it is mostly about men working to dismantle rape culture regardless of whether they themselves perpetuate it.

Which is a good thing to call for, mind, but I don't really see why it should be directed at men specifically or support hostility towards men. Just as you can't treat feminists as a monolith, you can't treat men as a monolith (even more so, actually, because "men" isn't an ideology).

I am aware that of the two cases, one calls for action far more urgently (you can't really compare rape to a bunch of people's spewing hateful toxic bullshit), but the logic is the same. If one treats radfems as a fringe group they are in no way responsible for, they don't get to turn around and say "all men should..."
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-09 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
First of all I both agree and disagree with the first bit. I think some of these people are operating on the assumption that all women are already working on dismantling rape culture, so men should step it up; this is obviously incorrect as many if not most women also don't know/care about rape culture. As for the last bit, I'm confused as to why their hypocrisy/behavior suddenly makes me or other level-headed feminists more responsible for them than we otherwise would have been.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-06-09 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't?? I was talking specifically about the hypocritical part of the group. If I have any problems with feminism as a movement, they are probably purely ideology-related OR have to do with my dislike of group mentalities of any kind. By no means am I saying that all feminists are responsible for anything. Maybe that wasn't clear enough, in which case my apologies.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: Unpopular Fandom Opinions

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-09 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
ah, no worries :)