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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-09 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2715 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2715 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Tales of Innocence]


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03.
[Transamerica]


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04.
[Final Fantasy VIII]


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05.
[Interview with the Vampire]


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06.
[Andrew Lloyd Webber]


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07.
[Critical Miss]


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08.
[Great British Menu/Emily Watkins]


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09.
[Mike Malinin, Goo Goo Dolls]


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10.
[Pacific Rim]


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11.
[Star Trek TNG]


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12.
[Homestuck]


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13.
[The Man From Nowhere]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #388.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
that claim was made here not that long ago

I fully support everyone's right not to like Firefly. but the series has some of the craziest antifans ever.

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I would like to see the original version of that claim, if you have a link handy.

mostly everyone I know who is into talking about Firefly is a "fan with complaints" rather than an anti-fan, so I'm not familiar with what true anti-fans have to say.

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
da, but google allecto- her Firefly rants are, well, she says that she's never seen a good relationship between a black woman and a white man, therefore Wash is abusing Zoe. I am not making this up.

It doesn't get better.
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Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-10 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Is she the one that said that all sex between a man and a woman is automatically rape? :\

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
anon who asked in the first place

I haven't read all the way through the comments, but the reasoning usually goes like this:

-sex without clear consent is rape
-power imbalances fuck up consent in various ways
-intense and pervasive power imbalances between men and women are baked right into our society as it currently operates
-sex between men and women comes with an automatic dubcon warning until the power imbalances are fixed.






Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah so basically the same reasons sex with children can never be consensual. So basically women are like children. Cool. Very feminist conclusion there.

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
the actual conclusions people draw from this line of reasoning can vary a lot. but yeah, it can get pretty agency-erasing and gross. :(

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
apparently this writer is also a TERF, or was in 2012 when they stopped updating their website

D:

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
oh no!!!! but. . . but. . .wash/zoe is the best relationship of all time! D:

well I will put some bubble wrap around my poor heart and go check it out later this evening. thanks, anon!

Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, wow. Set aside my Wash/Zoe stanning for a sec and went and looked at allecto's post, and wow. Wow! I haven't taken a trip down Anti-Pornography Lane in a long-ass time.

The thing about unhealthy interracial couples looks like it's a universalization of her own experience and family. which doesn't excuse it but -- if she'd said "I don't like Wash/Zoe because my grandfather treated my grandmother like shit and it makes it hard for me to enjoy fictional interracial relationships where the guy is a white dude," that would have been totally understandable! No one has to think Wash and Zoe are the best. But instead, it has to be Wash couldn't possibly really love Zoe because all white dudes are inherently the worst across space and time, which. . . I don't know. She reads his attraction to Zoe as being obviously dehumanizing objectification and so on.

I'm not going to ramble too much here (too late!) but that was really interesting. Toward the end allecto speculates about Joss Whedon's wife and how he treats her, based on Inara's role as a peacemaker on the ship. Then in the comments she asserts that she is sure Whedon rapes his wife on the regular, and she can tell because. . . (???????????)

Ok, I'm going to stop reporting on the thing you linked me to, but. This has been a fascinating hour, thank you!



Re: What fandom things are you tired of hearing people rant about?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
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... Even if you're a Whedon hater, that last paragraph - like - WHAT THEH HELL?!