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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-12 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2718 ]


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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-06-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
same personal views, beliefs, political orientation, etc. as everyone else who's intelligent and has a Ph.D.

I think that's the disconnect right there.

You're calling it a political belief. The rest of us are calling it a scientific fact.

To put it in perspective, I view an anti-vax Ph.D. graduate the same way I'd view a doctor who believes that pregnancy can't results from rape. It is a very politicized belief, but more importantly, it's dismissing and ignoring a proven scientific fact - and if they don't know this basic thing, what else do they not know? Why should I trust them or anything they know?

In terms of intelligence and capability, I'd trust the doctor who thinks women deserve rape and should endure the ensuing pregnancy whether they want to or not, if he acknowledged that it was a rape that caused the pregnancy in the first place - even if his morals are bullshit, his science is sound.

I get that people aren't perfect and people say and fall for stupid shit all the time. I do it all the time, everyone does. But given the amount of attention this particular issue has received, if a hard-science Ph.D. grad says they don't believe in vaccines, then I am distrustful of their education because either a.) they have done their research and are dismissing it all to support this viewpoint, or b.) they haven't done their research and still made this claim. Even if she was somehow put on the spot and forced to answer the issue without a chance to research, then the best answer would have been "I don't know enough about this issue to answer this".
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-06-13 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I am glad to see that she doesn't (seem to) support anti-vaccination in general and has a good reason for not vaccinating in her own family.

I'll be the first to admit right that I basically just became a hypocrite right now, talking without doing all my research about what she actually said. Thanks for correcting me.

That said, I was using the comparison of the doctors just to explain the perceptions, not trying to state they were necessarily alike. And I still stand by the fact if she did support the anti-vax movement in general, then I would still doubt her scientific credibility.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
hmm, you raise a point here (i admit that i didn't actually look into her public statements; for shame). i can see where that personal experience would lead her to choose not to vaccinate, though it opens an interesting debate.

by avoiding vaccinations, she avoids the chance of an adverse reaction, but it's not as much of a risk as if she lived in a society where the chance of catching one of these diseases were super high; it's very likely that herd immunity would successfully protect her kids here - the best of both worlds.

it seems a bit unfair to take advantage of those who actually vaccinate (and therefore open their children to the possibility, no matter how slim, of detrimental effects)...but then, life isn't fair etc etc.