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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-12 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2718 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2718 ⌋

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[personal profile] crunchysunrises 2014-06-13 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Gotcha! Thanks for the info!

("Religion" is the number one reason that people don't get their kids vaccinated in my state. It's always interesting to hear someone in the know's opinion on that.)
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-06-13 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
//nod
Just remember that Christianity and Judaism are massively, massively different on many fronts.
I mean tbh, I can't even fathom what kind of religious anti-vaccine argument there could possibly be. Why do they say that you're not allowed to vaccinate? Do they not go to doctors at all?
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[personal profile] crunchysunrises 2014-06-13 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
They don't actually have to say or detail their medical choices.

My state has mandatory vaccination laws for kids entering public school. There are about three recognized exceptions, religious being one of them. They just check a box, sign the form, and bam, they're done. (How many of them actually believe is probably a vastly different matter.)
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-06-13 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
wow, that's terrible D:
I mean it's actually making it EASIER for people to opt-out, as if it was legitimate...
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2014-06-13 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
As I understand it, the sects of Christianity (and semi-Christianity) that denounce vaccines, blood transfusions, and yeah, sometimes even medicine work under the concept that faith is all important, because Jesus said that with faith the size of a mustard seed, you could command a mountain to be moved into the sea. Which is a very powerful passage about the unfathomable might of the Lord, but some extreme groups interpret the concept of faith as being the end all, be all. Jesus healed through power and prayer and his disciples healed in His name, so... shoot, okay, I'm trying to figure out a way to explain the mindset that doesn't come off like I think they're in the right, but also doesn't come off as mocking people for their beliefs (although when those beliefs endanger or kill children...argggh). But basically, they believe prayers and faith should be enough to heal, and that reaching for mundane help is saying that you don't have faith in the Lord.

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To which I'm inclined to point out that He did give us healing herbs and doctors and minds capable of thought and the like...


The anti-vaccine thing is scary, because it's popular among liberal leftists who are all about bucking the system and their Indigo Children, and it's popular among extreme religious folks (usually of a Christian denomination), and because dangit this should not even be an issue anymore.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-06-13 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I get what you're saying. I mean, I personally disagree very strongly (like I said, according to Judaism we're supposed to use the tools we're given to live in this world. Technology is A+! Yay medicine!) but I can see how these ideas of faith can be twisted :X

That's terrible. I am also particularly bothered by it because my mom's a doctor, so I know first-hand how many horrible things modern medicine can save us from. It's true, it's crazy that this is still an issue.

Thanks for explaining!