[ SECRET POST #2718 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2718 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

It does have a link about it.
http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/62902854107/this-is-a-collection-of-art-depicting-people-of and I think the people in it are pretty obviously not just tanned. I've seen most people guess early 1800s for Frozen.

The biggest issue I've seen is confusion over the Sami, because most European countries have a much different idea of 'white' than the USA. So USA they'd be considered white, Scandinavia says not.

And they already changed so much about the myth that aside from a queen and snow, there's not much there. They actually seemed to pull a lot more from The Snowman.

I mean I personally think it was fine, the movie was well done, I loved a lot of the details, I just think Historical Accuracy is a bit of a dumb hill to die on, when talking about a Disney movie. It's a bit like yelling that Hercules can't be Hera's son because the whole point of the myths is her hatred of him being a bastard and trying to kill him is what forced him to be a hero, Disney's going to do what they want to do. And if they want to make a character black, they will, and if they don't, they won't, and historical accuracy has little to nothing to do with it.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think when it all boils down, my real line of thought is something like "You really think Disney would put POC in a "Snow Queen" movie? You're being a bit too hopeful if their willingness to give out representation!".

I like the movie too, but I remain unsurprised by Disney making the whole thing very, very white. I do however suffer from Dull Surprise that people expected it to be anything but very, very white.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I'm more surprised at how viciously people defend it being white as The Only Option. I mean, they could have gone back to Robin Hood type stuff and had them be foxes and Kristoff a reindeer and all talking animals. they could have been robots on a distant planet and Elsa glitched and messed up the climate controls. It could have been set in Japan and referenced Yuki-Onna myths.

Instead, they did what they did. Which is fine, but it's a bit like the recent kerfuffle over the video game company that tried to claim a female playable option would be double the work and take twice as much time and money to animate than a male playable option so they literally couldn't manage it and had to go with a dude instead, and everyone was going "..... whatnow?"

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, one of my other comments in this thread said something the like - they could have transplanted to another place, but they didn't and stuck with a pseudo-Scandinaivian land full of white people. Including Elsa, and the unambiguously white Sami-clothed Kristoff.

Hey has anyone ever considered that Disney looked up Sami and saw piles of people who look unambiguously white and thought that was the unquestioned image of Sami?

Ehh... that video game anecdote does sound really skeevy.

[(Anonymous)]

The biggest issue I've seen is confusion over the Sami, because most European countries have a much different idea of 'white' than the USA. So USA they'd be considered white, Scandinavia says not.

Nope. In Scandinavian eyes, the Sami are white, just like the Romani are white and Jews are white and people speak Spanish in Mexico but they're probably white there too. The concept of POC is very American, and Europe uses a different language (literally) when we talk about ethnic or cultural minorities.