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Which one is correct?

"Standing by the door was Bob. Bob, whom she loved."

"Standing by the door was Bob. Bob, who she loved."

I think it might be the first one, but I've read tons of explanations of the whole who/whom thing and have never understood it, so...

Thanks in advance!

First one.

Here's an easy way to figure out the two. Answer the question and if the answer is he or she, it's a "who" and if the answer is "him" or "her," it's a "whom."

"Whom she loved."
"She loved whom?"
"Him."

Ooo, I'll write that down and will try to apply it the next time I have this problem! Thank you so much for the help, and for the tip :Db

No problem. And really don't worry about being not sure on something like this. "Whom" and "Who" have been tripping up native English speakers since grammar was first invented.

I believe the first one is technically correct. "Who" is used when it is the subject and "whom" is used when it is the object of the phrase it's in. In this case, it's used as an object: she loved whom.

But tbh, almost no one cares about who/whom anymore, so if you just default to 'who' it's very unlikely that anyone is going to call you out on it.

Yeah, I've heard that definition before -- but whenever someone starts talking in grammatical terms like subject/object my brain just... fizzles and shuts down, urgh.

Thank you for the help! I didn't realize that who/whom wasn't a big deal anymore; that's quite reassuring to know.

My brain does the same thing. :)

Whom. :)

I'm going to echo the "most people don't mind" sentiment, and that defaulting to who is usually fine <3 Like, whenever a fictional character corrects another character all "you mean whom", in my experience it's always been to show that they're totally pedantic.

/native speaker who never says 'whom'

Yup. Here's a page with more examples:

http://www.grammarbook.com/grammar/whoVwhom.asp

I know it's technically correct but using 'whom' in a non-formal or prestigious setting is always really jarring to me, because I only ever see it when people are trying to be fancy. It's up to you, really.

Whom is used when it is the object of the sentence. If 'who' is being verbed, make it 'whom'.

Many people still use the word "whom", but it's no longer required.

The first is correct, as everyone else mentioned.

What no one mentioned, though, is how awkward the first sentence in your example sounds. Starting a sentence with a gerund is tricky, and it's usually used in complex sentences.

They are both correct. Technically, it might be "whom", but since "whom" has frankly fallen out of most modern usage, "who" is completely correct, too. In fact, the second one might sound a lot more natural, certainly so in spoken dialogue - I rarely, if ever, hear people actually say "whom".

The first one is more correct but they both sound pretty awkward. I think "Standing by the door was Bob. Bob, the man she loved." is more natural-sounding. ^^

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