[ SECRET POST #2721 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2721 ⌋

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Comments

[dreemyweird]

I feel like I need to rewatch it asap.

Btw, I said I thought that the H&W dynamics in this film was purely due to Watson's being different from his canonical self, but I now remember Holmes' role being different, too. I don't imagine the original Holmes felt guilty for doing what he did. It was what his work required, and he's a professional above many other things. I never judged him for it, either, and I don't actually like the readings of HOUN that depict this case as a breach of trust.

In the Roxburgh!Hound, though, I feel that - not the character of Holmes is different, but the circumstances are. The heroes are taken out of ACD's just and good world and thrown into a universe where the actions that were okay in the Canon lead to big-time screw ups. This is why Holmes is forced to act differently and a part of the reason why Watson isn't that forgiving. Does that make sense to you?

[donutsweeper]

Oh yes, it makes perfect sense. Between Watson and Sir Henry being injured and poor Beryl dead (as opposed to just tied up in the original story), the ending is different enough that the normally accepting and easy-going Watson is not anywhere near as forgiving as usual.

[dreemyweird]

Would you say that this film is basically an attempt to make the canon closer to the real life, or that it is just different from the original stories without being more/less realistic than them?

[donutsweeper]

I think there definitely is a little of an attempt at realism and also of just fleshing out of the characters, like how it added Watson's summation of Holmes' knowledge from STUD to the dinner party (the knowledge of literature - nil, botany - variable, etc). Overall the result was giving a greater scope and depth to the characters, more than is usually found in just one story out of the entire canon.

[dreemyweird]

Well, yeah, I guess that's sort of inevitable with standalone adaptations of Holmes stories. The 3GAR part of it must've been added for the same purpose.

Thank you, it was all very informative. I remember I made a post in GC when I first watched the Roxburgh Hound, but, though the first half of it was about how I was pleasantly surprised by the quality, I was too busy being resentful about MR to analyse this adaptation properly.

ETA: and back then someone told me it was supposed to be a series? But then it got cancelled because of reasons? I'm not sure. Maybe they didn't want to film the whole of the canon, just certain stories. That would make sense.

(oh, and I see I have totally overran this thread. Sorry, OP, if you didn't want to see me here. I can't keep away from SH secrets).

[donutsweeper]

It was supposed to be a series, but I've no idea why that didn't happen. Ian Hart did play Watson again, but Roxburg wasn't Holmes, instead Rupert Everett was Holmes and it was an original story and overall not anywhere near as good.

[dreemyweird]

The anon suggested it might have not been taken well by the audience because any SH series that attempts to adapt the canon is now seen as a rival to the Granada version. Which I think might be the case.

And I have to agree that the Everett thing was blergh.