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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-15 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2721 ]


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iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-15 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a super kind of special, aren't you?

If you say something that implies that all members of X demographic behave in X fashion (especially if you're implying something especially horrible like rape, racism, etc), then don't be surprised if members of X demographic don't like that.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
You're far more special than I am if you think talking about systematic sexism=Omg u say all menz ohnoezzzzzz

Not all men is a knee jerk reaction to ANYONE mentioning sexism. It's fucking pointless to have a discussion about rape statistics among women, for example, by first starting off with, "Now guys, we're going to talk about some men who raped women, but it's not you guys! You guys don't rape! Here's some stickers!"

How hard is this to understand exactly?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
So you agree that it's an entirely valid response to people who say that all men are rapists / pigs / etc.
diet_poison: (Default)

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-16 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
who exactly is saying that

I mean, anyone outside of tumblr or radfem blogs? serious question
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-16 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
If someone is saying that we should end Father's Day because it promotes rape culture and the patriarchy then that implies that all men are sexists and rapists.

This conversation was never about rape statistics. It was about stupid people demonizing an entire demographic.

For example

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
The guys who complain about women who cross the street at night if there is a man/men walking towards them. Getting offended because not all men are like that! So it's unfair that you do that to me! is one reason why Notallmen is asinine.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: For example

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-16 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Getting upset because a woman took steps to protect herself/get away from a situation that made her uncomfortable isn't the same thing as getting upset because someone implied you are a rapist.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: For example

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-16 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
the point men (some men!!!111) are making when they complain about women crossing the street though is that they think her action implies that he is a rapist and take personal offense.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: For example

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-06-16 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
What diet_poison said.

Many men are wonderfully understanding of the fact women are just trying to defend themselves, but many are also woefully misunderstanding of this point. They see a woman crossing the street or not wanting to be alone with him as some kind of insult instead of a defensive measure against a very real threat.

In other words, some guys are acting like the latter of the latter situation because of the cause of the former one.