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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-16 07:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2722 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2722 ⌋

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Re: Getting this off my chest…THREAD STARTER HERE

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
How is saying that Uhura and Spock don't work (not in general mind you, but as specifically WRITTEN in the reboot) in any way problematic, though? I say this because one post I got attacked for didn't even MENTION Uhura. I never said her name -- not once. I didn't tag her or Spuhura in the post. Instead, the entire post way dissecting why the romance doesn't work (for me) as written in the reboots because of Spock's characterization -- how he was unlikeable in the 2009 film and how that film didn't at all address how he got over his emotional hangups to date ANYONE. Not Uhura in particular.

I made that post because I got really upset at the reboot writers for something they said. I honestly don't think they understand the characters that well. What set me off was when one of the writers compared Kirk to President Bush. So I wrote a piece on Kirk. And then a piece on Spock because I have issues with him as well.

And what Spuhura fans took out of it was that I was saying that Spock/Uhura was implausible when that WASN'T what I was saying at all. What I was saying was that Spock and Uhura would theoretically make a great couple. But the romance is so underwritten and Spock's issues are completely unaddressed that it comes off as poorly written and unbelievable AS PRESENTED IN THE FILM. If they'd fleshed the couple out and maybe waited until the second film (establishing a close friendship in the first), then I think it would have worked really well.

For the record, I couldn't even start shipping Kirk and Spock (in the reboot) until I saw Into Darkness. So it's not Uhura I have a problem with.

It's the fact that there's no S/U "love story." We don't get to see how they fall in love, what drew them together, and (most importantly) how Spock got over his emotional repression. With Kirk and Spock, I felt like we at least got that -- in the 2009 film, we see how they meet and come to respect one another. Then in Into Darkness, we see how Kirk's trying to reach out to Spock and how they've come to rely on and love (platonically or romantically depending on if you ship them or not) one another.