[ SECRET POST #2726 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2726 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Naruto]


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03.
[Transformers: Prime]


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05. http://i.imgur.com/dkPX9Ym.gif
[moving .gif, Steven Ogg, Grand Theft Auto V]


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07. [SPOILERS for Murder in the First]



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08. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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09. [WARNING for rape]



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10. [WARNING for rape]



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11. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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12. [WARNING for rape, abuse, pedophilia, incest, ironically enough none of which OP warned for]



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13. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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15. [WARNING for sexual abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #389.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Some people read and write it for a coping mechanism. Also I think its going too far saying it affects society because people do differentiate between fiction and reality. I'm with you if people don't tag their shit though.

But other than that, I agree with you. Fandom is TOO open-minded it makes me uncomfortable sometimes, especially with the fetishization and sexualization of everything and how people are just so open about sex talk and kinks and that kind of thing, especially for the things you listed. It really baffles me. It almost makes me think my fandom/fic tastes are in the minority. (probably are)

But, I accepted that it is my issue, not theirs. Everyone has fun how they like and there's nothing wrong with it as much as it's weird to say.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree as well.

This is one of the few things where I think fandom goes too far. (Celebrity stalkers aside.) On the one hand I understand that some people get into shota and similar stuff because many of them were victims of it themselves, and it can be a way of working through stuff. But on the other hand, fandom has a tendency to sort of... legitimize a lot of really fucked up stuff as being okay. Similar to the people who write non-con/dub-con and who don't label it or recognize it as such.

I've been hesitant to voice my disagreement with the acceptance of shota/loli in fandom circles in the past, because of the reaction. It's a massive squick for me and makes me deeply uncomfortable. I can't help but feel that it's unfair that people get labelled as "closed minded" for not being comfortable with underage stuff. What the hell?

[(Anonymous)]

Look. I've never seen fandom act like it's OKAY that we live in a world where real children are abused and sexually molested. Never. (And I would raise holy hell if it did!) I have seen fandom argue that, in the context of a world where these are real life bad things, insisting that fanfiction be devoid of them is sketchy. "No shota!" accommodates the comfort of people who never had to give this stuff a second thought at the expense of people who want to bring it up in a medium that harms no one.

People aren't labeled closed-minded for being uncomfortable with underage. They're labeled closed-minded for translating "this makes me uncomfortable" into "fandom is way too tolerant, it's enabling abuse," as if that's a value judgment they are even remotely qualified to make.

For what it's worth, I'm glad underage turns your stomach, and I say that as a pretty outspoken shota fan. But I'm also tired of people equating stupid, piddly crap like not labeling your fiction or not putting a big, shiny "I know none of this is okay" disclaimer in front of your non-con with Being An Abuser. As if rape or child abuse was indicated by a minor lack of subculture-specific etiquette. TL;DR, Making yourself comfortable is not the same thing as helping survivors. And sometimes, it's actively harmful.

[(Anonymous)]

Why should I tag my story dub-con if my heroine does want it and her protests are not meant to be true? The struggle is the theme, but the consent is not dubious, it's plain there to me and to my readers. If you see them as true you're not getting it.