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[(Anonymous)]

I'm vegetarian since I was about 4-5 years old and my parents (who eat meat) didn't research anything (vegetarians weren't very common back then). I just ate normally (of course no fast food etc.) and was and still are perfectly healthy (actual I was healthier than most children around me). Never had any deficiency symptoms and my blood tests were always very good.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT So you lucked out? I'm quite aware that most parents, vegeterian or not, don't do any sort of research. But most parents usually raise their children the way they were raised, and tradition usually helps with that. But vegetarians are usually trying something new, and so they have higher chances of screwing up.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you misunderstood me: I ate normal and with that I mean also healthy. Even without research our meals were always very varied, for the meat eaters and for me.
We have another vegetarian in the family and he also never had any problems (he's also vegetarian since he was a child).

I don't understand the last sentence: vegetarians usually try something and so they have higher chances of screwing up? Screwing up at what?

[(Anonymous)]

Screwing up at giving their child balanced meals.

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Why are only vegetarians prone to screw up at giving their child balanced meals? I honestly don't understand this (like the other anon).
To give your child a balanced meal applies to every parent and every parent can screw up at this.

And how does this relate to vegetarians usually try something new (I think to try something new depends on the person - not if they eat meat or not).

I work as an nutritionists and have seen many screw ups - coming both from meat eaters and vegetarians. Main problems were the unbalanced diet and the bad quality of the meat (i.e.heavy metals/hormones in meat, the industry's use of meat waste...) or the wrong meat.

These are problems every parents should look out for. I've seen delusional vegetarians who even tried to apply their diet to cats (who need 100% meat!) and I've seen meat eaters where a greasy roast meat was obligatory 7 days a week.

[(Anonymous)]

I've already said that omnivorous parents screw up too. It's right up there, really. You can read it if you look just a few comments up.

What I said is that omnivorous parents have tradition on their side. They feed the child however they were fed when they were younger, and they were fed however their own parents were fed, and so on. Usually this works, because if a family survived so long like that someone did something right.

Vegetarian parents were USUALLY not raised vegetarian. So they can't go ask their own parents what to do, because their own parents would likely not know, either. And they don't have tradition on their side. With less resources and the fact people usually don't research children diets, this makes them more prone for mistakes.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

There are religions that believe vegetarianism is the best way. A new vegetarian could go research their food traditions.

Of course I'd give allowance that if a new vegetarian fails to research, they may also fail to balance their meals.

[(Anonymous)]

Lots of parents screw up at giving their children balanced meals.

That, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with vegetarianism.

[(Anonymous)]

I think what they're trying to say is that most people who just run headlong into different diets don't always do proper research or they just rely on word of mouth for their food. For example, there was this local news story a few years ago about this guy who made his vegetarian daughter sick because all he would feed her was basically lettuce, baby carrots, tomatoes, mushrooms, french fries and apple juice or water. To him, that was vegetarian. Thankfully her mom was smarter and got her on a healthier diet but still.

Plus, you make a point of saying you and your family ate varied meals, whereas most people who try new diets don't do that and they wind up eating the same meals over and over and getting sick as a result. Like, you hear all these horror stories about people trying to go full vegan and because they don't do the research but instead rely simply on what they 'know' about being a vegan, they wind up with malnutrition from eating nothing but boiled pasta or toast for almost a month because all the foods they're used to eating have some form of animal product in them.

Heck, just google 'vegan parents kill child' and you'll get a whole host of horror stories but the most famous one is the case of Louise Le Moaligue, an 11-month old baby whose death can be linked directly to her parents' strict vegan diet (though granted their equally strict adherence to practicing alternative medicine had a big hand in it too).

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

If you are ovo-lacto and your parents simply traded eggs for meat, I think you end up over-all healthy if your average meal has a good proportion of vegetables.

How much research does it take to trade meat for eggs anyway?

(BTW, I grew up in a household (Home Economics teacher for a mother), and a church (Seventh-Day Adventist) that knew a lot about vegetarianism.)

[(Anonymous)]

"But vegetarians are usually trying something new, and so they have higher chances of screwing up."

uhhh vegetarianism is not new, not by a long stretch.

[(Anonymous)]

In most cases, for them and their immediate family, it is new.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, it is actually somewhat easier to make a balanced veg*n meal (IMHO, I cook way healthier for family occassions where we have a lot of dietary needs including a vegan), because the temptation to fill up on protein and simple carbs with minimal veggie sides is way, way, way reduced. I mean, I could see someone totally stuffing their face with fallafel/peanut burgers and disregarding the rest of the meal, but these things are actually genuinely a lot better when served with matching veggies.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

If you know which groups to look at, you're right. Thing is, most of those groups are vegetarian for religious reasons. How many people would be willing to investigate a religion solely for dietary information?