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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-24 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2730 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2730 ⌋

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Re: Stuff you could stand to see less of in your fandom

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-06-25 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Shipping. Don't get me wrong -- I love me some romantic storylines and I do adore reading shippy stories. I just would really like ships, and/or the ship it/don't ship it debates, to *not* be treated as the center of attention and central key question around which all fandoms revolve.

I could also stand to see a whole lot less of shippers sarcastically going "YUP LOL NOTHING ROMANTIC/GAY/LESBIAN ABOUT THEM HAHAHA YEAH THEY'RE *SO* HETEROSEXUAL/PLATONIC HAHAHA STUPID BLIND/STODGY/HOMOPHOBIC NON-SHIPPERS."

Dudes, can't you just have a blast squeeing "omg they're so romantic/gay/lesbian" amongst yourselves? Why mock the people who aren't interested?

I could also stand to see a lot less of people dropping "by the way, did I mention how much I hate Character A/how much better Character B is than Character A?" comments into discussions that have nothing to do with the topic of why you hate A. If you have a real beef with Character A, go write an essay about it. But you don't need to drop it into unrelated conversations all the time. All it does is annoy and distract people.

I could really, really do without people trying to excuse a character's bad behavior by cooking up wild excuses, even when the writers actually *intended* the character's behavior to be bad! When it's a case of "oops, that was shitty writing" that's different, but if it was intended...c'mon.

Relatedly, "I'm actually secretly in love with you and was really jealous/frustrated so that's the reason why I did this dickish thing" does not count as a good excuse to forgive someone's bad behavior. Actually, it just makes it a whole lot worse. Which is fine, if you actually *treat* it as being a whole lot worse, rather than as the cue for the wronged character to fling themself into the other character's arms going "OMG you love me???? I don't care if you beat the shit out of me/fucked my girlfriend/bullied me and my friends and acted like a racist shithead/implemented an evil government program/fired me/turned evil/ran back to your planet and refused to speak to me for years/etc, I totally forgive you! Let's have sex!"

And I really, really hate it when people use their own meta and headcanons in layers and then insist upon it as THE only interpretation possible. Er...if that makes no sense, it's basically that instead of drawing each piece of meta/analysis from the canon, people draw some meta from the canon, then evaluate the rest of the canon based on that interpretation. For example:

-Canon Fact 1: Character A and Character B are good friends.

-Interpretation Layer 1: Character A is in love with Character B.

-Canon Fact 2: In Episode 48, Character B was dating some hot dude/chick and boasting about it to Character A, like a lot of people would with their friend.

-Interpretation Layer 2: Character B is HORRIBLE CHEATING INSENSITIVE SCUM who owes character A an apology for aggravating poor A's unrequited love and jealousy and I will proceed to interpret B's entire character based on their insensitivity to A's love!!!1111

*sigh* That's the kind of thing that belongs in *fanfic* people. It's actually fantastic to read in fanfic, in fact. Just keep it out of analysis, unless you acknowledge that it's all wild speculation. And it's totally not confined to shipping either. This is one of those things that gets all over totally non-shippy stuff too.
Edited 2014-06-25 01:58 (UTC)

Re: Stuff you could stand to see less of in your fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-06-25 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
A+ to all of this.

ESPECIALLY people excusing the character's behaviour. some shippers in my fandom are hell-bent on erasing the villian's actions and it annoys the crap out of me.