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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-25 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2731 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2731 ⌋

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[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-06-25 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair to the directors, there are several points in the books where GRRM actually does refer to the Jaime/Cersei relationship as it was portrayed there. We never actually got to see a sex scene in any of them where Cersei "protested his advances but wanted it as much as Jaime" to paraphrase, but it was certainly an aspect of their intimacy that they didn't pull out of thin air. The fact that they did choose to showcase it definitely does a lot to clue the show audience into the fact that Jaime isn't the "good" twin, as even the books tend to like to imply.

It's true that GRRM probably doesn't see that as dubcon, and he certainly doesn't write it like he does, but the rest of the world has different ideas. It's definitely dubcon, if not outright rape.

tl;dr they weren't going beyond the canon dubcon (that "isn't" dubcon because GRRM has questionable ideas about consent). That's something a lot of people seem to have missed about that particular scene.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
there's a difference between protesting and wanting it too much and what the show gave us