[ SECRET POST #2731 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2731 ⌋

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Comments

[ketita]

Am I supposed to assume mental illness until proven otherwise? Why the hell should I be getting all up in someone's mental health issues?

[(Anonymous)]

You shouldn't be getting all up in them, but it shouldn't be that someone who's presenting signs is treated like they're making things harder for everyone else, as if things aren't hard enough for them already.

[ketita]

Look, I would not go up to an author who posts a fic all "uwu this is 1am trash lol sorry" and be like HDU. I would probably just ignore the fic and move on.
This is a thread for people to share their deep inner feelings on the topic so yeah, I'm sharing them. How do I know if they're presenting signs or not? Chances are I don't know the author and never talked to them. I have absolutely no idea what's going on in their life. I am not going to go around assuming that people have mental illness because they say their fic is loltrash, because some people do, some people don't, and why is it my business?
But there IS a certain culture that's built around trash talking, and I personally don't think that excessive trash talking of yourself is a positive thing, if you can avoid it.

Nobody's treating anybody like anything. I'm just saying that in general, the chances of me liking/clicking on/reblogging/commenting on a piece of art or fic is higher if the author doesn't preface it with how pathetic they are and how little they worked on it.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay I can see what you are saying. I think my thing is that a lot of times people who are mentally ill are approached as being manipulative or doing things just to get attention, and it's really harmful, and I see some of it to do with this topic. I am also of the mind that if a reader and author feel differently about something, it doesn't mean that either one is wrong, and I think it struck something particularly that you said the author disliking his/her work would say something bad about you. It wouldn't, it would just say that you processed it differently.

[ketita]

There are certain behaviors that, to somebody who doesn't know you or in a different cultural context, can always be misconstrued.
Self-deprecation can be misconstrued as humblebragging, or just plain incompetence.

The internet =/= irl. On the internet, nobody knows who you are or what your issues are, ESPECIALLY when you're posting a story. I just want to read about Steve and Bucky banging okay. Nobody knows if you're doing it for attention or not. All people have is that little bit of text where you say this thing you just posted is shit. That's not much to go on.

True story example: A Chinese guy in Israel was approached about doing a translation job. In response to whether he can, he said something self-deprecating about how he thinks his skills are adequate. The Israeli who contacted him immediately went to find somebody else, because it's not part of the culture here to downplay your abilities like that. The man assumed the Chinese person was simply announcing incompetence.

Btw, as for author intent - how many times have people on this comm discovered that an actor hated a part that the fans loved, and were disappointed by it? Have you ever loved a book to find out the author hated it, or said 'anybody who likes it is an idiot'? Especially in fandom, where the authors and the community are so close - how can you assume such detachment? As a writer, I personally think it's disrespectful; that's my perspective. I'm not going around lecturing to people who post those disclaimers on their fics, and I wouldn't attack anybody personally for it either, but because I feel this way, it's not something I would do. I understand that your perspective is different, and that's okay.