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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-26 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2732 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2732 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I think she was trying to write Harry as if he was being plagued with testosterone. Having never been a teenage boy, I wasn't sure how close she got it.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Testosterone, bees, same difference apparently!

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT Way to miss the point. Pretty sure noone else on this community will need this spelled out for them, but just for you, anon, here is the context of my comment:

Unless I missed the bit where Harry's brain was actually scooped out and replaced with bees in OOTP, I think OP is comparing Harry's thought process to having a brain full of bees.







(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a joke. Lighten up.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
(Not the anon from above) To be fair it really didn't read like a joke. It read more like an attempt at starting wank.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry's brain being filled with bees was definitely a major component of the book. Part of why Dumbledore breaks down crying at the end is because he knew it was happening and did nothing.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have read that.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It really wasn't a testosterone thing, or even purely a teenage thing. He was a kid who'd been through a lot of shit and who was at his breaking point. It's a wonder he didn't go completely off the deep-end.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, poor Harry. :( Oh man, I've got to read those books again.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I'd like to see how all these people who call it teenage whining would fare when they're forced to fight dragons, dive into a deep lake nigh-unprepared, watch a friend get murdered, and have a mental connection to the deformed maniac who murdered their family and others.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
i legit think the argument "he had every right to be emotionally unstable" is a good argument.



but good god do i hate smartass idiots like you going ~oh i'd love to see how yoooouuuuu'd fare~ because it's a completely pointless argument. we'll never know how other people would deal with it, so shut up and let a perfectly valid point stand on its own.


/rant
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2014-06-27 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Perfectly understandable from my point of view.
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-06-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
On reflection, it's like Harry got banged up one side and down the other with the Stupid Stick. There are just so many things he's either completely clueless about or making such elementary mistakes doing that it bothers me.

I mean, to name off a few things -

1. Not pushing harder to get someone to find out about his "I must not tell lies" blood quill writing. Dumbledore would have laid the smack down on Umbridge in like 0.00001 seconds if he ever found that out.
2. Hermione talks about Occlumency like she's researched it. Why doesn't Harry pull that thread and get the books she's read instead of making it an endurance contest with Snape? If one way doesn't work (Snape bashing his mind repeatedly), find another, don't just keep repeating it.
3. Being so stupid as to not open Sirius's present. Harry's curiosity in canon is sometimes absolutely insatiable, and yet the one thing he might just want to take a peek at, he doesn't. Even if he didn't want Sirius to risk himself, opening the present up in and of itself can hardly hurt.

And that ties into....

4. Everybody's told him Voldemort can send him visions. I get that he's a teenager under incredible stress, but I can think of a dozen ways the Dept of Mysteries chapters could have gone down differently if he'd stopped and kicked his brain into gear for longer than just pro forma acknowledging Hermione's concerns and haring off the instant Kreacher claims Sirius isn't present at 12 G.P.?

*sigh*

It's a pivotal book in a lot of ways, but it's blatantly obvious how much of it has contrived plotting for the sake of JK Rowling setting up for Sirius's death, as well as for the prophecy involving him and Voldemort.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
1. I was annoyed about that when I first read the book as a teenager, but in retrospect it seemed to me Harry was simply prideful...I don't know if that's right, though, I just remember that being my impression on a reread.
2. Harry doesn't seem very booksmart to begin with, which is why I assume he's good at DAtDA, since it's mostly hands-on asskicking, which he does like and have experience with. I agree it would have been smart to try, but plenty of teenagers are of the mindset that they don't want to try something to begin with, and I don't know of too many times Harry was willing to try anything other than his gut instinct.
3. I actually can't remember what this alludes to.
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-06-28 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
1. That's part of the problem. There's a time for pride and then there's a time to ask for help and if McGonagall won't do it (admittedly she didn't know the details, but she shut him down by telling him to "keep his head down"), find someone else.
2. Harry being able to go with his gut and usually come out on the right end of things is an admirable trait, but it's pretty obvious that sometimes there's information simply not available by flying by the seat of one's pants.
3. In OotP, Sirius hands Harry a wrapped present somewhat clandestinely. Harry, believing it will somehow end up pulling Sirius out of 12 G.P., resolutely decides not to open it to keep Sirius safe, he believes.

Except that it was the communication mirror, and if he'd known about it he could have called Sirius in complete safety and verified from Sirius's own voice that he wasn't captured by Voldemort in the Dept of Mysteries.

Remember when he finally unwraps it, reads the note, and gets so upset he smashes the mirror?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
What the actual fuck?

Read the end of GoF again.