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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-26 06:47 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
There's crap everywhere, but tbh, there aren't a lot of good fics that can truly rival good books, at least not that I've seen. I mean, heck, even in well-known fandoms, the fandom classics are usually tripe. I wouldn't compare them to great books that I've read by any means.

I think that what OP is getting at is that fanfiction is a very limited range of reading. The topics often repeat, the genres and styles are specific, and it's a bit insular - meaning, you're probably not broadening your worldview or learning about new cultures or lifestyles or philosophies. It's like a frog in a well, and the popular stuff is usually conformist.

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2014-06-26 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, you articulated my thoughts on the subject than I could myself.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. This is my feeling as well.

Fanfic has given certain voice to certain sections of literature that were ignored by publishing. For example, it can excel at depicting acts of sex, or niche erotic interests, or the experiences of minority sexual orientations in a way that I've yet to see published fiction come close to (and it's an interest of mine, so I read widely on that subject). But in terms of genre/style/source inspiration it can be very repetitive.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-06-26 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. As much as I love fanfiction, I feel like books have a lot more room to talk about different things.

Though, to be fair, I'm also a fan of nonfiction books, so that is probably coloring my POV some.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-06-26 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I really should read more nonfiction. When it comes to fiction I read anything and everything, but I hardly read any nonfiction.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2014-06-26 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
My dad had me read The Body Farm when I was younger, and since then I've been hooked... On reading everything I can about forensics/forensic anthropology/virology/poisoning/murder etc. |D I mean, I'll read other things obviously, but those are my favs. Plus I found the marine history/PIRATES section in my library, so I'm going to be going through those next. :D

I guess I'm the opposite from you- I'll read just about anything nonfiction because I feel like maybe I'll learn something, but when it comes to fiction, I'm so picky it's embarrassing. |D
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2014-06-26 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
They serve different purposes, yes. But I don't think that makes one inherently worse than the other.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
In my opinion, being insular in your reading IS worse. It's like if somebody only reads urban fantasy, I will probably not be impressed, the same way as if somebody only reads fanfiction. But with other genres, even crime - I mean I find Agatha Christie fascinating from a cultural perspective and the way she portrays people and events, as well as the window into the views of the time. By picking a genre and reading books from different countries, you can still broaden your horizons.

Fanfiction is more limiting. I am not American, but by being fandom and reading fanfics I have found that mostly I am experiencing the American way of thought and of life (more specifically, liberal American). Perhaps some British, and some anime-based Japan. It's the source material that is broadening, usually, not the fanfiction.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Well said. I read both fanfic and published literature and try to read a wide range of subjects/genres and tend to think that people who limit themselves to just one are missing out on a lot.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-26 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely.

Published fiction misses out whole areas of human experience, either because the publishers don't think it's sellable, or that it's not prestigious enough to be associated with.

Reading both is the way to go.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I read both as well, and I agree with you - I WOULD recommend that people experience fanfiction as well, because many people seem to have no concept about topics that are widely discussed and accepted there.

Well-rounded reading is the key, imo!
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-06-27 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Why do I have to read books to get a better understanding of cultures, philosophies or lifestyles? In my opinion you can just as easily learn that through articles, talking to people and documentaries, not through the fiction I might be reading.

What type/genre/length of fiction you prefer to read does not dictate what you learn about the world, I would worry more about people who are not curious about things that are different to what they are used to, or not open to learn new things than I am of people who only read fanfiction for entertainment.

I am strictly speaking about fiction here not nonfiction, which I feel is a different discussion, but then agin I might be wrong in that regard.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2014-06-27 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Why do I have to read books to get a better understanding of cultures, philosophies or lifestyles? In my opinion you can just as easily learn that through articles, talking to people and documentaries, not through the fiction I might be reading.

I've actually learned more about different cultures and topics and such due to having to research things for my fanfics than through books I've picked up to read for pleasure.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
This to some extent. I'm not going to take a freaking novel as an authority on another culture. As impetus to do my own research, sure, but for the novel itself the possibility of 'artistic license' is too high.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2014-06-27 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes. Except that a lot of people internalize the artistic license version without bothering to check into the facts for themselves. Sometimes published novels broaden your horizons, but in the wrong directions.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Well, for one reading articles can also be biased. For example, most of the articles related to my country are focused on the bad stuff: violence, drugs, corruption, etc., which, yeah, they do happen, but usually the good things never appear on international news. Reading a books from someone who lives here, on the other hands, can help you understand life as lived by ordinary people, with the good and the bad stuff.

I, for one, enjoy reading fiction because it gives me the chance to live by proxy other lifestyles and life experiences as if I was experiencing them myself that I'd have never had the chance to live otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Reading fiction is a very poor way to learn about other cultures.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I find the storytelling, tropes, and styles of different countries both fascinating and illuminating. It's not so much about the content itself as the assumptions it's based on.