[ SECRET POST #2735 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2735 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's often an 'innocence' thing- many people think of animals, especially domesticated/pet species like cats and dogs, as something similar to a child. Also, like small children, they're significantly more vulnerable than most adult humans, and they can't really tell anyone if they're being abused or hurt.

[kaijinscendre]

Animals, children, and old people. :C

[(Anonymous)]

But old people are racist as fuck.

[kallanda_lee]

Some, sure, but they're physically fragile. If a man in his prime physically assaults a geriatric dude, that's still cowardly, even if the geriatric dude's an asshole. Fight him with words, not fists.

[(Anonymous)]

the assumption that "old people" = old white people is also racist as fuck, anon

get that "default race is white" checked out

[(Anonymous)]

the assumption that only white people are racist, though...??

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[kaijinscendre]

No.

[bur]

You've never seen an old person cry, have you. It's awful.

[(Anonymous)]

You know all those people that marched for Civil Rights back in the 1960s? They're old now!

I hate throwing "ist" around, but maybe you should work on being less ageist.

[(Anonymous)]

Get over yourself. 50 years from now people are probably going to say the same thing about your generation. Also, it's a bit creepy to think that you can't sympathize someone who expresses racist/sexist/etc. views. Obviously, we don't have to agree with those viewpoints, but that doesn't mean we have to lose all empathy for them as individuals. People are still people.

[littlestbirds]

I agree but also think it's really odd that we group domesticated animals and children together

[(Anonymous)]

Pets and children mean similar-ish things to us in terms of our having to care for them and feed them and stuff, even if they're fundamentally very different, and it's a common human trait to define things through the lens of our own personal experience with it.

(For example, straight men define women as inherently sexual because they experience them sexually. White westerners define eastern cultures as inherently exotic because those cultures are unfamiliar and exotic to *them*. Etc etc etc.)

[cassandraoftroy]

It makes sense in that domestic animals and human children are both inherently dependent on adult humans, and trust those adult humans to provide for them and protect them. When either a domestic animal or a child is harmed, it's more than simply violent or cruel -- it's almost an act of betrayal, regardless of whether the person harming them was specifically their caregiver. The audience is also more likely to have their protective instincts stimulated when these trusting, inherently-dependent, uniquely vulnerable beings are threatened, making the harming of them seem like a bigger deal. So it makes sense to me that animals and children would occupy the same mental category for most people, with regard to how we react when they're harmed.

[(Anonymous)]

Perfectly stated!

[evewithanapple]

And an adult human has the capacity to understand why they're being betrayed/hurt- they're developed enough to grasp motivation. Wheras a kid or domesticated animal doesn't grasp "this person is hurting me becauze X" they just know that they expected to be cared for/treated well and instead they're being "punished" for unknown reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

How is that odd? Both pets and children need to be taken care of. You have to feed them and make sure they are safe because they usually don't know any better. They are your responsibility to make sure they are safe and happy.

How is it odd to be grouped together when they are both things that need to be taken care of?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

This exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

In the process of domesticating animals, we've taken away some of their natural defenses (not all of them, of course, domesticated animals kill people and wild animals all the time) and made them more dependent on us for food and protection by breeding for certain physical traits and for personalities that are easier to work with. We also train them from infancy to work with us.

I don't know if I'd consider a dog being killed by a bomb sadder than a person being killed by the same bomb, but like to think of that scene in the Wizard of Oz movie where the tornado is bearing down on the farm and they let all of the animals out of the farmyard to fend for themselves because keeping them penned up while the humans seek shelter in the cellar would be cruel. The farm animals may not survive the tornado, but giving them back the power to run where they please at least gives them a chance, even if they never find their way back home again.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen this in a bushfire training video (Australia.) One firefighter in actual mid-emergency stopped for a few seconds to smash his axe through an aviary and release the birds.