[ SECRET POST #2737 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2737 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not hard. People like doing a thing, and then they realize hey, I need money because I also like eating and having someplace to live, and then they wonder if they can possibly earn money by doing a thing they like. Managing to earn a living doing something you enjoy is living the dream. I don't know anyone who wouldn't want it.

[(Anonymous)]

Create your own stories if you want to make money, don't steal other people's characters and stories.

[(Anonymous)]

Good thing every single published book out there contains only 100% original ideas and that nobody writes sequels to Sherlock Holmes, Jane Austen, or books containing references to characters in classic literature.

I hope you're also writing stiffly worded reprimands to every director/writer/producer involved in any of the Sherlock Holmes adaptations, because I'm pretty sure they're getting paid for what they do.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, because it's exactly the same. Of course it is.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. Do an Amazon search on "Sherlock Holmes sequel" and see how many works pop up that aren't written by Arthur Conan Doyle. Those writers don't own the character of Sherlock Holmes, but they're not necessarily working for free. Now do the same for "Jane Austen sequel". Now fire up IMDB.com and look up all the Sherlock Holmes and Jane Austen novel adaptations. How many of those were created by their respective authors? (Hint: none.) How many of the people involved in those productions are working for free? (Hint: probably none, unless there are unpaid interns who get coffee)

Now I'm not saying that wanting to get paid for writing, say, Homestuck fanfiction is the same thing. What I am saying is that the kneejerk reaction of "write your own stuff if you want to get paid" is too simplistic to be helpful in a discussion like this.

[ketita]

And what about fanart?

[(Anonymous)]

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The difference between selling fanart and selling fanfiction is not quality, it's physical product. I am against someone "selling" a digital copy of fanart, yes. But I'm sympathetic to fans at conventions selling their art, because it's sort of the idea that it isn't the art itself you are selling, but the materials, printing, etc.

If you wanted to physically print and bind a fanfic and sell it at a convention, I think that is equally acceptable.

Acceptable as in, of course, both are morally gray, probably harmless as long as the fan does it in good faith.

[(Anonymous)]

This

[crunchysunrises]

I have extremely mixed feelings on this topic that basically render me without a dog in this fight. But! This:

because it's sort of the idea that it isn't the art itself you are selling, but the materials, printing, etc.

is patently untrue.

If they just wanted buy the materials, ink, and shell out for the cost of printing something, they could've gone to staples, office max, the post office, etc. They're clearly getting something from the fan artist that they can't get within the wide variety of products offered by any semi-decent art supplies store - namely, the fan artist's artistic talent.

And frankly, that's probably the reason that no one complains that, after shelling out so much money, all they got was a single lousy sheet of paper and some ink without even a pen to keep it in! They want what's been arranged on the paper, not the raw materials put into making it.

[(Anonymous)]

Tell that to the people who sell fanart commissions :U

[(Anonymous)]

I love reading fanfiction, I think it's entertaining, but, I don't know, there's a difference between using another's work in this way just for the innocent and sheer pleasure of creative enjoyment/fulfillment and actually making a profit off of it.

Obviously, I'm pretty sure this is all because of 50 Shades of Grey, which was a Twilight fanfiction and became so financially successful. I can't talk about this book specifically because I've never read it, but it sounds like it's actually reasonably removed from the actual books on which it was based. As far as I'm aware, the plot is different, the characters are different (if they're different personality wise, then they're different, nevermind that the names used to be the same), and (to my knowledge, I could be wrong) there isn't even a supernatural element to it. So, basically, it was inspired by Twilight.

While fanfiction is always technically inspired by their original counterparts, it almost always uses the actual characters and settings-- characters and settings that were created by another person entirely. I just feel like there's not something quite moral about using their content for your own financial gain. Like I said earlier, I'm all for posting it online for free and everything, but licensing books to earn revenues from fanfiction? I don't know. It's a weird idea. Maybe, with time, it'll become a norm, but right now it's a weird idea to me.