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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-02 05:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2738 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2738 ⌋

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[Hayao Miyazaki]


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(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't heard the cryptozoologist = YEC connection before, yikes. OP, if it makes you feel any better, cryptozoology is an interest of mine*, but I'm an atheist and I 100% believe in evolution.


* I feel like I ought to clarify: I'm not convinced there's such a thing as Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster, but it's an interesting subject.


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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-07-02 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Cryptozoology is fascinating. I incorporated it into a short story once. I never got the YEC connection either, but I live in Europe, so that really might be different.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Cryptozoology also deals with actual animals that have not been classified/catalogued yet, yes?

...hmm, Wikipedia says otherwise. For some reason, I thought that was the professional term for, frex, botanists cataloguing the unique species and kingdoms in the shrinking Amazon.

Unsurprising the Bigfoot folks think the earth is only 6000 years old, though. Carbon dating! It's a thing!
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-07-03 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen it before either. It kind of doesn't surprise me considering that a prehistoric animal being found would be considered a 'triumph' (lol) for those who believe dinosaurs lived only a few thousand years ago.

I've always been really interested in cryptozoology too, and I am in no way shape or form a YEC.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-03 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But there are already a lot of species that have been around almost unchanged from the time of the dinosaurs (eg snakes, lizards, crocodiles, bees, frogs, salamanders, ferns, sea cucumbers, sea urchins, conifers, crabs, lobsters, clams, shrimp, corals, some types of fish) so what would even it prove to find another?

I share your lol.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone know what the dinosaur thing is supposed to be on this cover, I'm not aware of a dinosaur like creature in cryptozoology.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
No idea since I haven't read the books, but there's at least one dinosaur-like cryptid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele_Mbembe

(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
A cursory search does not reveal any such belief on his part. In fact the plot of the book doesn't really support the idea that the cryptid in question exists.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-02 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The cryptozoologists who've been getting a lot of money and press lately are often YECs (they're getting a lot of money and press because they're getting funding and publicity from the Christian Right) but the core of cryptozoology still prefers entirely different modes of batshittery, no worries.
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[personal profile] skippydelicious 2014-07-02 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It surprises you? If they are into one kind of crazy, they are probably open to other kinds of crazy pseudo-science too.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-07-03 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
YEC contradicts some of the favorite explanations of Cryptozoologists, though - that the cryptids are evolutionary throwbacks, missing links, or un-extinct prehistoric beasts.
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-07-03 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
TBF most people I know who are into cryptozoology, while they may enjoy reading about bigfoot and the loch ness monster because they're silly and fun, don't take stuff like that seriously.

There's kind of two branches of cryptozoology; the dudes who go around hunting bigfoot and chupacabra, and the people who are like 'this world is huge (especially the ocean), and there probably are some fairly large and cool undiscovered life forms out there, but yeah they probably aren't dinosaurs or something'.
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[personal profile] a_potato 2014-07-02 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd never heard of made that connection before, but...shit, it actually makes perfect sense. Yeep.

Anyway, OP, take the plunge and do some digging on him. The worst that can happen is that you just...continue to not re-read his books. But you could also be pleasantly surprised.
Edited 2014-07-02 22:57 (UTC)
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-07-02 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Cryptozoologists are typically YEC?! Wow. It makes a weird sort of sense.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2014-07-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think 'a lot' of cryptozoologists are YEC--I actually hadn't heard that claim before now. As in most areas, though, the YECs are probably the most vocal members of their field. I think they like to hear the sound of their own voices.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, either. I'm not hardcore or anything, but I keep up with one or two crypto blogs and religion doesn't come up at all. Most people are quite reasonable about this-- they WANT the scientific method applied to find out the truth, whatever that might be.

As weird as it sounds, every group has their nutty fringe minority, even cryptozoology. The theories people have are absolutely batshit insane... but they're not necessarily representative of the group as a whole.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-03 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has had cryptozoology as an on and off interest for about a decade now, I have never heard of the YEC link until now. Like, not even a suggestion that the people I've read about are fundies and are looking for the dinosaurs man rode on in 4000 BC. I mean, I guess two forms of batshittery go together like bird of a feather, right?

But at the same time a lot of the crypto theories I've read have relied a lot on some understanding and at least an underlying acceptance in the idea of evolution and the earth being older than 6000 years, the most obvious and well known being that Bigfoot is the "missing link" in human evolution.

Basically, this makes me sad :(
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[personal profile] paperghost 2014-07-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I looked him up and saw no mention of being a young earth creationist on his personal site, so I guess you don't need to worry.

(I had no idea about that though)
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2014-07-03 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
A quick skim on Google and Wikipedia didn't turn anything up so as far as I know, this one is okay