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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-03 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2739 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2739 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Bingo. Star Trek, even if it's not like the show, is still an enjoyable movie. Both are. TLA however? Shit movie. Not to mention many of the changes are just straight up offensive racist shit.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
STID was not without straight up offensive racist shit, though. I still think EVERYTHING about white!Khan is epic fail.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-07-04 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe, but compared to TLA, that's relatively minor. One originally-POC character was whitewashed, while there were still POC actors for the rest of the main cast, and a racially diverse background cast (though I wish it'd had more gender diversity).

TLA, pretty much all the main cast got race-bended one way or another, and the background racial depictions were in many ways even worse (ATLA Annotated does a good breakdown of it here).

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Whitewashing Khan is still a fail, but compared to TLA.... Yeah, far minor in comparison.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Lets not forget the Asian driver stereotype they pulled on Sulu to have the Enterprise be late to the scene. They could just have had the Enterprise fall behind (because it was new and untested, and didn't have a hard-drinking Scotsman on board - hey justification for adding Scotty to the roster later on instead of him just turning up), but no they went for the left the parking brake on gag, and gave no thought to how that played in the context of an Asian man at the helm. Racism doesn't have to be active, thoughtless racism that plays into stereotypes because it is just too much damn work to think things through is just as bad.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Uh. I didn't read it as "Asian driver stereotype": I read it as "nervous, inexperienced junior officer" - but then we don't have an "Asian driver stereotype" and I did forget my parking break on during my driving license exam, so....

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
STID had its straight up offensive racist shit: Khan

The original Khan attempted to racially diverse in its casting. The original Khan was a political ruler, they changed this one to a terrorist.

If they wanted to have a member of Khan's crew, they could have picked anybody from the Botany Bay, as we only knew a few names, everyone else of his crew was just Crew person #1, Crew person #2, etc. But no, no, no, they had to have Khan as a terrorist and to avoid cries of "racism" they made him white (but kept the name).

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
White washing an entire ethnic set of characters, like M. Night Shamylan did, is far more offensive than whitewashing one villian (which was probably done to avoid a whole mess of other issue of having a middle eastern person as a 'terrorist' as Khan was classified in STID)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. While I think he should have just been John Harrison, another crewman of the Botany Bay, making him a brown terrorist wouldn't have been right either.

Personally, an Indian Khan in a better role would have been best if they were going that route, but I think they should have told an original story instead.