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Or…maybe she complained to him because he was the one to misassign her to the Farragut on the basis that he didn't want to look like he was playing favorites?

And who says that what she does isn't standard procedure. If you have a problem with a professor, do you not FIRST go to the professor before going to the dean? That's what Uhura did -- she knew Spock wasn't being fair and so she called him out on it. And he acceded to her logic -- she only argued using facts and evidence rather than appealing to his emotions by saying, "But I'm your girlfriend!" Instead, she said -- "Look at my abilities. Look at my grades. Look at my record. Have I not earned this? Why am I not assigned to the Enterprise then?"

To which Spock can only reply that he wanted to avoid the appearance of favoritism -- he has no argument against her.

I agree that it wasn't perfectly handled. I think the biggest problem with the scene is that since the audience doesn't know that Spock and Uhura are involved at that point, that it comes across as a superior officer getting talked down to. If they had developed the Spock/Uhura relationship more and shown Spock's concern (and how it's unwarranted) I think the scene would have played better for a lot of people.

Nevertheless, the film does subsequently establish their relationship and so you have to evaluate the scene with that in mind.

It's a mess, but I maintain that the character at fault is Spock. Not Uhura. She was clearly more qualified than the officer already aboard.

So what you are saying is that it makes sense if you give them a do-over. Nope. Not gonna cut it. Spock's a dick, Uhura is a spoilt brat, and Starfleet isn't college it is clearly a military in this branch of the timeline. She should have followed orders and challenged them later. She only got on the Enterprise after being assigned elsewhere because she was Pon-Farring Spock. No amount of special pleading can change that, but thank you for trying. It has been most entertaining.

In general, I've found that you don't want to involve superiors if you can resolve the problem on your own. That's what Uhura was doing -- she was trying to fix a situation by appealing to the person who had instigated the situation in the first place: Spock. Uhura isn't a "spoiled brat" for wanting her hard work to be recognized. She's better than the officer aboard the Enterprise, there's no reason for him to be there instead of her except for Spock wanting to protect himself.

To be honest, you lost me when you said that Uhura had tried argue with Spock on the basis that she was his "fucktoy." She never did such a thing -- you made that up completely. And that's how I know you're in the wrong. Because you said blatant falsehoods like the following:

"hey, I'm your fucktoy and I think you've short-marked me so bump it up and I'll keep on putting out"

Something which there was never the SLIGHTEST hint that Uhura was implying.

No, it doesn't only make sense if they're given a do-over.

The thing that ayrt has been saying throughout this entire thing is that she was SUPPOSED to be assigned to the Enterprise, but Spock bumped her from it because of their relationship. In other words, if she had wound up on the Farragut, then that would have been because she was sleeping with Spock, not the other way around.

To put it in even simpler terms, had she and Spock not been in a relationship, she would have been assigned to the Enterprise to begin with. He would never have tried to put her on the Farragut.

You're switching the cause and effect around and completely ignoring any and all attempts to explain to you that this is what you've done. Instead, your blathering on about how your supposed military experience should carry over to a fictional space military from hundreds of years in the future.

You are one dense fuckrag.

I found this old thread by pure coincidence googling some star trek stuff and man you have a case of serious misogyny here.
why so bitter about Uhura's vageen?
If there was anyone who didn't earn their place on the ship it was Kirk. Uhura was the one person they literally showed earning her place as the communications officer and she saved everyone's cute male a$$ by translating that message, to begin with.
Kirk cheated on a test and without his best friend acting as the unprofessional character he had always been, he wouldn't be on the enterprise or any other ship.
I bet you wouldn't have wasted all these comments over how unprofessional the male characters ACTUALLY are.
so take this double standard sexist bullshit about Uhura and go home.

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