Case (![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
case) wrote in ![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png)
fandomsecrets2014-07-03 06:55 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2014-07-03 06:55 pm
[ SECRET POST #2739 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2739 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
01.
__________________________________________________
02.
__________________________________________________
03.
__________________________________________________
04.
__________________________________________________
05.
__________________________________________________
06.
__________________________________________________
07.
__________________________________________________
08.
__________________________________________________
09.
__________________________________________________
10.
Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 021 secrets from Secret Submission Post #391.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: Uncle Sam and the Fourth of July
(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 07:38 am (UTC)(link)"WE'RE THE BEST NATION IN THE WORLD" that...also sounds really wrong in the sense that it seems like it's ignoring the fact that there are *good* things the US has done as well*, instead of acknowledging both.
Please don't get me wrong - I'm not saying we shouldn't think about the bad! We should just...maybe it's because I live in an area where a lot of...well. People not from the US love to rub everything the US has ever done or screwed up into people's faces, so having a day to celebrate the good stuff is needed but...I don't see the harm in celebrating that as long as you acknowledge that there has been bad as well?
Also, I'm sorry if this came off as me being a dick, or saying you were wrong for doing this - I really didn't mean it that way! I just...don't really get it?
*I'm not reading it mainly because well...I really don't want to triggered into remembering my own rape, sorry. But I do thank you for the warning!
Re: Uncle Sam and the Fourth of July
No, it really isn't. And it doesn't ignore the good things, exactly. But the first issue especially is pretty critical of all the fucked up shit in this country.
The 2nd issue, however, takes a more even-handed tone. It talks a lot about the dream, about the vision for the future this country once had, eventually culminating in a scene in the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, which was supposed to represent what America might be -- but "things kept popping up."
Here, Sam is approached by national personifications of England and Russia, as well as Columbia, who each have something to say, with Britannia and the Russian Bear both telling him to learn from their mistakes. A major scene midway through the issue centers on him recollecting the Shays Rebellion "and every other time [he] let terror pull the trigger." Columbia later responds to this by telling him that despite the response to the rebellion being a mistake in and of itself, the rebellion forced lawmakers to replace the Articles of Confederation with a real Constitution and federal government, to change the union from a loose group of states into a real nation.
But the most important lesson he learns is that "...if America sometimes fouled up along the way -- and it did -- that was the fault of the dreamers. It wasn't the fault of the dream." The idea of America is still sound. America is an experiment, and experiments don't always succeed, but the way freedom works is that you have to work at it -- take pride in facing the problem, not ignoring it. If you can do that, all the other shit is just so much smoke in the wind.
I'm not going to ask you to read the comic (BTW I checked, the page in question is in issue #1, immediately after the Andersonville scene, and it's only one panel) but I definitely feel like you've got the wrong idea.
Re: Uncle Sam and the Fourth of July
(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)I definitely feel like you've got the wrong idea.
You're right, I was. That's part of why I asked, tbh, because it seemed a little strange to me for someone to be reccing something that negative on the 4th of July, particularly since you've always seemed pretty level headed most of the time. Plus the small hours of the morning are really *not* the best time to be trying to decipher something. So it was just better all around to ask.
Thank you for the civil answer, btw! And I might give it a go at some point, I'm just...not a fan of the response I generally have to that kind of thing. If I do I might message you - if you'd be okay with that? Since, from what you've said, otherwise it does sound pretty interesting.
Re: Uncle Sam and the Fourth of July