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fandomsecrets2014-07-11 06:45 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2014-07-11 06:45 pm
[ SECRET POST #2747 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2747 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[The Hobbit/Thorin Oakenshield]
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[The Vincent Black Shadow]
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[El Goonish Shive]
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[Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]
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[Penny Dreadful]
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[Supernatural]
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[Blake's 7]
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[Edge of Tomorrow/Tom Cruise]
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[Quirk]
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[Homestuck]
18. [WARNING for rape]
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19. [WARNING for rape]
Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #392.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 (tw: rape) - not!secrets ], [ 1 (?) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: Remembered something I learned in history once
it came from a misunderstanding about the already-present apostrophe(Sorry, I got that wrong) people misheard "Johnes" for "John his", and that became popular and the mostly not-grammatically-minded people got more confused. This link gives a good rundown of the history.The Old English form was in place before the 12th century, and the evolution of es to 's since then is very well documented. Before then, we just wouldn't have the written records to support that claim.
Re: Remembered something I learned in history once
One thing people tend to forget about historical linguistics is that there wasn't much in the way of systemic and uniform education up until the last century or two, and even then it was very class-biased until around the WWII era and after. People were more likely to play around with the spelling, or write things as they sounded instead - and they wouldn't necessarily be wrong, depending on time period, because there wasn't always a single unified institution creating set standards of what even is right or wrong, and thus creating linguistic unity. The closest thing was the church, and even that didn't always go very far.
There are still parts of the world today where being able to write your own name counts as being literate, even if you can't read or write anything else. Up until a few centuries ago, this was about how literate most English-speaking people were, given that even in the middle and upper classes, literacy wasn't a given - forget the lower class that the vast majority of the population was usually in.
In other words, a few instances of people hearing "Johnes" and writing "John his" is the equivalent of a historian from the future looking back on our own time period and assuming we spelled the 2nd person pronoun as "u" because some people on Facebook don't know how to spell "you".