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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-11 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2747 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2747 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hobbit/Thorin Oakenshield]


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[The Vincent Black Shadow]


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[El Goonish Shive]


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[Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]


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[Penny Dreadful]


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[Supernatural]


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[Blake's 7]


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[Edge of Tomorrow/Tom Cruise]


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[Quirk]


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Re: QUestion for Germans or People who have lived there

(Anonymous) 2014-07-12 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
To elaborate, now that I'm not on my phone anymore:

We read the first book about it in German class in 6th grade, started with it in history in 7th grade (but only because we had to have some basic historical knowledge first. We probably would have started with it sooner if we'd had the history basics in elementary school). We took a break for a good part of the 8th grade for the French revolution and American independence and all that, but went back to it in 9th grade and more or less stayed with it till the end, with a few exceptions (mostly when it came to "Oh, some of you want to do your final exam in history? Eh, you might need to know about these things then"). No matter what we did, we always circled back to it. We discussed the economical and political things in "Politics and Economics", discussed the involvement (or lack thereof) of the church in Religion (or Ethics), read literature with it as the backdrop in German, English, French and Italian. We discussed the scientists from that time in the Science subjects, talked about the Olympics in P.E., spent a lot of time on the topic of "degenerate art" in Art and I'm pretty sure there was some point where we discussed it in Geography as well. Not every subject soent as much time on it, but it was a topic at least once in each and every single one of them.

I'm not sure about the older generation. The last of my grandparents died in 2001, but he (my grandfather) was not axactly a Nazi sympathiser, which got him into some problems back then.
My other grandfather never talked about it, but I think my father mentioned he was a prisoner of war in Russia. He died when I was pretty young, so I never got to ask about it.
My grandmother's side of the family came from Silesia, so they mostly would talk about the forced migration. I know a woman (a friend of my mother) who is around 80 - she was part of the "League of German Girls", but she was very young then and I'm pretty sure wasn't really aware of what that meant. They had to help out with food supplies, I think - picking mushrooms and stuff like that.
In general, the older generation who wasn't actively involved can be coaxed into talking about it, but the ones who were actively involved usually keep quiet about it.

Talking about it in public is usually a serious business thing. But there are also several comedy shows that have started to make jokes - usually with Hitler as the butt of the joke. But you really shouldn't joke about the crimes they committed - which is why the whole Nazi jokes about the World Cup are not axactly appreciated here. Comparing the Holocaust to a football game is about as cute as if they said "Wow, they totally went 9/11 on them" in a game where an Arabic country won against the US team.

The Nazis today are a different matter. There are two bigger nationalist parties (NPD and REP) and there are repeated talks about banning the NPD but it never happens (not anticonstitutional enough, apparently). There is a big lawsuit going on about a series of murders committed by a group of neo nazis and it's all complicated because people fucked up and there are people involved who were supposed to prevent things like that and... eh.