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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-15 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2751 ]


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[personal profile] ketita 2014-07-16 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, basically, just used different wording.

Though actual Judaism (or at least Kabbalah) appears often in Kaori Yuki's works - see Angel Sanctuary for instance - and while it is kind of interesting to see wtf she did there, it's kind of offensive in that it basically twists everything... Like you say, on one hand I'm not offended because the connection to reality is so tenuous. On the other hand... there's something kind of offensive that they don't even bother researching a little, you know? Because they don't give a shit. Then again, Japan can be incredibly insular and insensitive.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-07-16 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Because they don't give a shit. Then again, Japan can be incredibly insular and insensitive.

I think that's so because no one really calls them out on their bigotry and ignorance. It's very different from America where it is vastly more diverse and the people there are not afraid to be vocal when they find something wrong. In Japan, you don't complain and if someone (usually someone non-Japanese) calls you out on it, you play dumb. You play dumb until it hurts and they go away. Because to admit that you made a mistake in Japan will bring shame. Where as in America, to not admit you made a mistake and play dumb will bring you shame.

So, they never have to think, "Hey, this may offend someone. Maybe I should think of another way of doing or saying this."
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-07-16 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, there was the recent incident with the male members of the Cabinet heckling a female member while she was presenting, where basically the world reaction shamed them into making the men apologize to her publicly. So it can happen sometimes.

In a sense, though, Japan can afford to be that way. They have no land borders, their population is mostly homogenous (and they kind of try to keep it that way... half-and-half children can have a terrible time).
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-07-16 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
That most have been a shock to them. Because you know that wasn't first time heckling female members went on.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-17 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
I've read some stuff suggesting that Japan is not as homogenous as they claim - it's basically all a cover for Japanese imperialism. They like to claim that Okinawans and Ainu are Japanese, when really they've gone through quite a bit of forced naturalization (Okinawa used to be its own country while Hokkaido was populated by the indigenous Ainu. Neither of these people spoke Japanese). The Ainu language is basically dead and Okinawan is on its last legs (only old people speak it).

And let's not even get into Zainichi Koreans (who often change their names and pretend to be ethnically Japanese to avoid discrimination), or the amount of illegal Chinese immigrants in Japan. Walk into any fast food restaurant in Tokyo and half the staff are Chinese. What percent of Japanese people are really completely "Japanese"?

It's so hard to count minorities in Japan because they've been totally erased by over a hundred years of Japanese imperialism.

On the other hand, I remember talking to a Japanese dude about First Nations, and he asked why they're in such dire straits in Canada (poverty, etc.) when the Ainu in Hokkaido aren't suffering that way. Of course the reasons are complex, but basically it's because they haven't been assimilated the way Ainu were in Japan. I mean, there aren't any Ainu speaking their own languages and living on traditional land anymore. Not to say that most Natives in Canada are, but the culture isn't dead as a horse like it is in Japan. Ainu don't even have any land. So is it better to be 100% assimilated but comfortably middle class, or is it better to be poor/targets of discrimination but completely lose your cultural and ethnic identity? It's something interesting to think about, anyway...