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⌈ Secret Post #2751 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Okay, help me out here: what am I not seeing? I'm not trying to disrespect your opinion or say it's wrong, I just look at them and I see twee and forced. What are you seeing that I'm not? Can you elaborate on what makes them work for you?

[(Anonymous)]

On the most basic level, they work for me because I like Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman as actors, and I like watching them do things. They're very watchable. And they're also very pretty. So that's undeniably part of it.

On the level of characters... okay, I agree that the Eleventh Doctor is twee - that's undeniable, it's part of his character. I would argue it's almost a flaw in his character. But his character as a whole works for me. I think of the twee-ness as a put-on. You almost think of him as, like, a Victorian or Edwardian stage magician, and the twee-ness is part of his patter. Compare him to Ten - for me, Ten's talkativeness came off as almost a nervous tic, like he was leaving his mouth running while his brain was off thinking. It's incredibly impulsive, like everything Ten does. There's something very performative about a lot of what Eleven does - his persona seems like a conscious choice. And that's interesting to me. I think that's an interesting character note.

Clara, I don't think, is twee at all. Maybe in Snowmen, but not after that, really. I see her as forceful, and arch, and funny, and clever. She's driven by compassion and by curiosity, not by iron determination or a wish to escape or a palpable need to see more. And I think that's how Coleman plays her pretty consistently, and I don't think it's twee, really.

And in combination, they work really well, I think. They have a fun chemistry. They get along because they're both intelligent in similar ways, and both witty. But they also play off each other well because Clara can cut the Doctor's patter down - she's got the quick wits and the forcefulness of personality to do it. Really, I think she sees that it's an act and just decides that she's just going to disregard it and be funny. Compare (again, sorry, another comparison) to River and Amy, who clash with the Doctor in different ways. They're certainly both forceful, but River clashes with the Doctor either by asserting her superior technical knowledge ("You left the parking brake on") or by asserting her emotional claim to the Doctor ("sweetie"), and Amy clashes with him by being rude and Scottish and funny and bulldozing him and outdoing or equaling him in bloody-mindness. If Jenna outdoes him in any way, it's in wit. You could almost see them as a comedic double act. And that is, again, an interesting dynamic to me.

Is it forced? I don't think so. I mean, yeah, often they have shitty scripts, and it sucks that the season devotes so much time to Clara's ~~~mystery~~~ and that Moffat doesn't really stick the ending, but when you get scenes where Clara and the Doctor are actually on scene acting together, they're really pretty fun.

And of course part of that is, again, because Coleman and Smith just act really well together on screen IMO. Really interesting to see how Capaldi plays with Coleman, hopefully it's decent, sorry for writing so much