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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-19 03:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2755 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
statistically speaking black people are more likely to be criminals, should we fear them?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
AYART

Can they burn my face off? Change my mind for me? Are they or any other minority in any way capable of things that the average human is incapable of?

No?

Then why he hell are you asking me this? Unless you're going for the inhuman implication inherent to your question, I mean.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
according to you its ok to hate a group of people if there's a greater chance they can be dangerous

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
that's not what they said

they said humans have legitimate security concerns about mutants that are not analogous to minorities

black crime rates are the result of 1) longstanding institutional racism destroying and devaluing their communities and livelihoods, barring them from opportunities or making them deal with far more difficult obstacles to succeed in the same arenas, etc, and 2) a strong, empirically proven bias among police and judicial system to pursue black and investigate black suspects more vigorously, and to charge them more harshly

it's not a result of black people being inherently more dangerous than other people, which mutants are, and creating a false equivalency between the two like you're doing is exactly why AYRT and myself don't like the trope

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
except mutants aren't inherently more dangerous. unless you think cypher, husk, artie and leech pose a threat to all mankind.
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[personal profile] thelonebamf 2014-07-19 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
This was what I came to say. For every rockstar, spandex wearing, jet flying mutant, there are a dozen with "crappy" powers or simply physical differences that pose no danger to anyone, but are they themselves threatened because of the stigma against mutants. (Cough Morlocks Cough.)
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[personal profile] duaedesigns 2014-07-19 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure that's wrong? http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43 Statistically, a crime is generally over twice as likely to be done by a white person than a black person. So go ahead and hate whitey for being inherently violent due to race.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-07-19 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
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Is this epik me me trolling?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-19 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
There are also 5 and a half times as many white people in the US as there are black people. So - if you want to follow this line of reasoning, and I don't think you should - black people are committing a disproportionate share of crimes, and while the average crime is much more likely to be committed by a white person than a black person, the average black person is statistically much more likely to be a criminal than the average white person.

Of course you still shouldn't, because it's a flawed line of reasoning, but it's better to just reject it as flawed, rather than to buy the line of reasoning and attempt to out-calculate it.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-20 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
DA

It also depends on what kinds of crimes you're looking at. In my city a considerable number of black men get put away for possession (drugs, mostly marijuana).

Being put away for a violent crime probably would have different numbers. But I do agree that the reasons for which such high numbers of black people are imprisoned have very much to do with the history of the U.S.A and the institutionalized racism that has seeped into the educational systems and judicial systems. Let's be honest here.