[ SECRET POST #2756 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2756 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA

No that's still how words work. The majority decides what words mean.

You can attempt to make slash mean something different but if the majority decides it doesn't, too bad. Same with fluff. The majority has decided it's not plotless and silly any more. Too bad?

[(Anonymous)]

The majority has not decided that fluff is serious plot. I've never run into anyone who thought it was before people started complaining about it here. Thus... minority.

[(Anonymous)]

Your personal experience is the One True Experience, I see.

There's no debate to be had then, cya sis

[(Anonymous)]

About as true as your personal experience. And I am not a woman.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not talking about personal experience, I'm talking about general fandom trends.

This expression of outrage that oh my god, this fic tagged #fluff has actual plot along with the WAFF how dare it! abomination! word traitor! is not the majority opinion anywhere.

It was an expression, brosisneutraloption. I give 0 shits about your actual gender, which makes 0 difference to this conversation

[(Anonymous)]

Words mean things, and the words we use to mean things in fandom is very important, because that's how we advertise and find our fandom creations. It's not outrage that people are using the word incorrectly. It's facepalming at people advertising things as the opposite of what they actually are. It's literally the same situation as "literally" coming to mean the opposite of itself in the dictionary.

And you were the one who brought gender into it, and have become defensive when your mistake got pointed out. My gender is not important to the conversation, but now you're making a big deal out of it.

[(Anonymous)]

If it didn't matter why bother correcting the clearly offhand remark? Who cares? You do!

Tagging things as fluff appears to be working for the majority as the majority appears to be finding what it's expecting. Someone linked AO3 below which is a good example. The fluff tag contains many a long story with plot that also happens to contain a lot of happiness and warm feelings and silliness

Do you get irrationally angry about literally too? How dare they take your words away from you? Do you also get mad when I call people who are not bros, bros? Or dudes, dudes? Or if I tell a girl to chill out, man! You're funny

[(Anonymous)]

Because you brought it up and you were wrong, and if you can't see why that would require correction in this particular conversation, then there's no hope for you.

I just told you that it was not a rage issue, so your attempts at baiting me are pointless and laughable. Words. Read them.

[(Anonymous)]

B-but what if they mean different things to me because meanings have changed? The horror, the horror

But seriously, does your eye twitch when I call a girl bro? This is a question of great import.

[(Anonymous)]

Really now? Is it really important? Because you said the issue was not relevant to the conversation.

[(Anonymous)]

Now you're being purposely obtuse. This wasn't about you, this was about me calling a hypothetical girl bro.

Bro doesn't say anything about her gender, bro is a slang term which if you don't know the meaning of, god help you. But in literal fact, I am calling her my brother. The majority-use version and the literal definition clash, just like with "fluff."

So does your eye metaphorically twitch, compadre?

[(Anonymous)]

Now you're being purposely obtuse.

Pot, kettle.

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't actually but okay, thx for admitting it?

Literally dying laughing at how srs you are or are pretending to be, was fun

[(Anonymous)]

I give your trolling a 3/10 for dedication, but you have to work on it if you want to be a pro.

[(Anonymous)]

DA Boy, you really lost that attempt at one-up-postership. And your "I so don't care, nyah nyah, see ya!" fools precisely no-one.

[(Anonymous)]

That are false the expression are static but the that feelings or hands stay under moment. The write, until hands is insignificant (then and less insignificant) whole in suppression, that are insignificant the you diverge when insufficient volume to which we feel, but the you disuse ambiguities in the future rarely rejected.

[(Anonymous)]

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[bigpaw]

http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Fluff/works

Here's how people in fandom are using 'fluff' to tag their own fics. Just on the first page, it ranges from drabbles/one-shots to 300k word multi-chapter fics. I don't really have time to take an in-depth look at it, but it gives an idea of what the majority of fandom considers to be fluff, or at least how they're using the word.

[(Anonymous)]

Many of those stories have so many tags, I'm taking it to mean that the author is covering all their bases. "Well, there's some angst in this chapter, so I better include that, and in this one, so much hurt/comfort, but by the time they get to that chapter there's been a fluffy night of cuddling, gotta click that box too."

[bigpaw]

No I agree, some of them seem more...thoughtfully tagged than others, I guess. I just meant that arguing about personal experience is a bit pointless, since everyone's is different, and the best way to figure out how fandom uses certain terms is by actually examining how they're using them

[nyxelestia]

I guess it depends on how you look at a story.

Generally, if it's a short story and I see the "fluff" tag, then I assume the whole fic is fluff (and with a few exceptions, it is). The longer the story/the more the tags, the more I assume that it isn't a fluff fic, but just a fic with fluff in it.

But then, I think at least a third of the tags, genres, trigger warnings, and labels in fandom are horribly misused and abused, so I may be biased.