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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-21 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2757 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2757 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Get back to me when the Hannibal fandom stops losing its collective shit over a serial killer.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Mte.

This shit happens all the time with male chatacters and hardly anyone bats an eye.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Hannibal doesn't murder infants.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
He's still a horrible person who murders and eats people.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
But he hasn't murdered hundreds of infants.

Ergo, Laveau is worse.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Not murdering infants doesn't make all the other horrible shit he does somehow not bad.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Not *as* bad. It's like rooting for Loki vs rooting for the Red Skull.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
... because murdering (and eating, and feeding the corpses to other people) is okay as long as they're not babies?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of? It's like Al Capone and Charles Manson. One guy was a mobster who killed other mobsters, the other had someone's baby cut out of their stomach. Liking one is not the same as liking another.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
To me eating people is way more repellent than murdering infants (as long as you don't eat the infants), but that's just, like, my opinion.

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How does that work?

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[personal profile] evewithanapple 2014-07-22 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
[Christian Bale voice] OH GOOOOOOOOOD FOR HIM.
Edited 2014-07-22 02:09 (UTC)
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LMAO I just died. Oh god, yes, I freaking love you for this comment.

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[personal profile] visp 2014-07-22 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Perfect.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-07-22 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
And that matters why? Are we really going to play the game in this thread where we take two really reprehensible things and argue about which one is worse like that really matter?

apparently, we are

(Anonymous) 2014-07-22 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
the eternal struggle between taboo and economics.

(both are useful to me as long as I understand them. like the hand washing taboo, I understand germ theory and I know little kids.)

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-07-22 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
True, he's a serial killer with standards.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-07-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Literally just started watching this show. And while Hannibal is an interesting and well-written character, I can't see why anyone would actually sympathize with him or woobify him. And yet they do.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I had similar feelings about Dexter. Don't get me wrong -- dude had one hell of a tragic backstory, and most of the people he brutally and ritualistically murders are mostly evil, but still, stop treating the sociopathic serial killer like a floofy baby bunny, people!
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-07-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. And frankly, Hannibal is interesting precisely because he's a horrible human being who is really good at pretending not to be and at manipulating everyone around him partly to get what he wants and partly just for the fun of it. But then again, that's exactly how I like my villains, so this show is hitting lots of buttons for me.

Serial killers are not woobies, and they make very interesting villains when written well because they are more realistic than your average, over-the-top villain.

But then again, people turn Ramsay Bolton of all people into a woobie.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I keep finding myself sympathising with Hannibal and having to remind myself he's a cannibalistic serial killer who is a master manipulator.

I'm a bit concerned about myself.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-07-22 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I guess the manipulation is working on you? At least you recognize that he actually isn't sympathetic. But he is a really good actor. He has everyone else fooled, so I guess it makes sense to be able to fool the audience in some moments?

HERE BE SPOILERS FOR HANNIBAL S2

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-07-22 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, that's the point of the show. As long as you remember again, you're fine.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-22 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been in the fandom for a while, and the people who woobify him are a very small minority. Most fans agree that he's a horrible person. The only times I sympathize with him is when I have to suffer through people being horrible rude.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-21 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I watch the show and stay the hell away from the fandom.