[ SECRET POST #2757 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2757 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think fandom has a hard time dealing with women who are villains in general. They are either loved and their sins are forgiven or they're horrific bitches. There is no room in fandom for characters who are villains but complicated; maybe they've done some good things, maybe they're fighting a greater evil, etc. I don't feel like fandom is automatically forgiving because the character you mentioned is black, but more because women who are villains have to fit into one of the two roles I just covered and she falls under the first type I listed.

[(Anonymous)]

They are either loved and their sins are forgiven or they're horrific bitches.

There's a couple of times I've seen characters who managed to be neither of those. The main one I can think of is Servalan from Blake's 7, who is almost never woobified or forgiven from what I've seen, but is also often admired for being an incredibly badass horrific bitch who did everything the heroes did backwards and in fabulous outfits while ruling the galaxy with an iron fist and successfully coming back from several assassination attempts, a couple of imprisonments, at least two coups, and an interstellar war.

She's not forgiven - this is the woman who casually murders, enslaves, frames, tortures, drugs and consigns to mental violation any and all people who get in her way, up to and including planets. Nobody denies that she is the cast-iron evil bitch to end all evil bitches. She's just so stupidly seductive and charismatic and awesome in the process, is all, and there were a couple of almost sympathetic moments (in particular, she had a plot where she tried to create children by cloning, and loses them all, and seems to physically and psychically feel her future children's destruction). Even if she's almost impossible to forgive, she's also extremely hard not to admire, just for sheer out-and-out nerve and the fact that no matter what happened to her or her plans, she found a way back from it.

So, on occasion, I think there are female villains who manage to fall somewhere in between? But yes, it's probably rarer than it should be.

[(Anonymous)]

This comment is awesome, and you should feel awesome for writing it.

/B7 fan

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

It's a lot rarer than it should be. I'm dying for more woman villains who aren't primarily or entirely seductresses. And you may have just convinced me to watch Blake's 7. :)