[ SECRET POST #2757 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2757 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure how much the 'if the heroes had done something different' part holds. I don't know the first hero/villain pair pictured, but for the others, three of them (Lex, Loki and Ramses) would mostly have required a completely different upbringing, or at the very least a different father, to have turned out differently, since both the internal family relationships and the external enemies that existed as said fathers' legacies were big parts of what caused the falls in those cases. The other two (Magneto and Demona) have backstories and falls sourced in racial/ethnic/species tensions which resulted in slaughtered families (yes, in Demona's case, largely by her own fault) and the character's desires to henceforth be extremely proactive in removing the potential for a repeat performance, which the heroes may have exaccerbated at various points, but they really can't be blamed for overall. Especially not Goliath. Charles is maybe a more complicated question.

That aside, I'm now finding it kind of fascinating how much of a thematic flip Moses & Ramses are versus Thor & Loki. Both are a pair of brothers, one adopted and one by blood, with the adopted brother from a race/people that were conquered by his new family. Both adopted brothers undergo a traumatic realisation of their real birthright, including the realisation that the people being enslaved/slaughtered/locked on dead worlds are actually their birth families.

But in one case, the adopted brother flees, has various revelations, and returns to champion his birth family against his adopted one, becoming the hero, while in the other the adopted brother has a mental breakdown and attempts to commit genocide against his birth race in the hopes of proving his worth to his adopted family, and when that fails tries to commit suicide. On the flipside, of the blood sons, one stays where he is, is further indoctrinated into his father's legacy, and continues under pressure to perpetuate his father's slaughters, while the second one goes into exile, learns about various people who aren't his own, and becomes the champion of 'lesser' people's against his brother's increasingly large-scale insanity.

Apparently, exile is good for the soul.

[(Anonymous)]

Proving once and for all that it's important to move out of your parents' house and live on your own for a while.

[(Anonymous)]

I sort of disagree with regard to Lex*. Had Clark been honest with him instead of lying to him all the time, things might have been different. Lex tried but you can't have a relationship when you know the other person is lying to your face.

*I was an equal Clark and Lex fan but I stopped watching Smallville after Asylum as it was that one step too far in Lionel's abuse for me. I also disliked Jonathan Kent for expecting Clark be honest, unless it was Lex. Both fathers were not the best role models overall.

[thistlechaser]

I wish I knew who that first pair was, too.

[(Anonymous)]

griffith and guts from berserk

[thistlechaser]

Oh thanks!