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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-31 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2767 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2767 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-01 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
"Social intelligence is actually more useful in some situations than book smarts. I wish I had more of it, actually."

I think this exact same discussion happened here on FS a few months ago, but here's my take on it:

Penny *doesn't* have good social skills or emotional intelligence. She doesn't. She deals with minor conflicts by kicking and punching people, she's unable to support herself without asking Leonard or Sheldon for a large loan, she seems to barely be performing the basic functions of everyday life: paying for food, cleaning her apartment, paying bills, maintaining her car. It doesn't take a math geek to do those things; your average sixteen-year-old could do them.

**She depends on men for both emotional and financial support.** Is that the M.O. of a socially adept, emotionally healthy, savvy type of person who is skilled at playing the game of life?

Prior to the introduction of Amy and Bernadette, Penny seemed to have no real friends or confidantes whatsoever. Once or twice, she had groups of people come over to watch a ballgame and drink, but we never, ever saw her have meaningful one-on-one interaction with a close friend.

This show keeps on telling us that Penny is the psychologically normal one, but what we're shown is that she's rude, angry, lazy, aggressive, irresponsible, violent, and cruel.

The guys have issues, certainly, but Penny's the only one who is dysfunctional.

The idea that's she's "the relatable one" or that she's the designated audience self-insert boggles my mind.

Penny is one of the least likeable TV protagonists I've ever seen. And I say that as someone who *likes* the Seinfeld crew.

The idea that Penny "introduces the nerds to the real world" is ridiculous and offensive. Drinking, fighting, and being intentionally under-employed are "the real world"? All of the characters on this show have done questionable stuff, but the guys are seeking knowledge and contributing to society while Penny is breaking people's faces and refusing to pay for a plate of noodles.

If Penny has all this social finesse and emotional insight, then where are her other friends, why doesn't she use those skills to improve her own situation, and why does "resentful and grouchy" seem to be her default mood?

[personal profile] lyriel 2014-08-01 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, mis-posted :P This belonged on page one. Please feel free to delete...
Edited 2014-08-01 04:44 (UTC)