ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-06 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #335 ]


⌈ Secret Post #335 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

I'm not actually around, Semagic is doing the work for me, so you guys do the name that fandom! :D

Also... the amount of not posted secrets today worries me. Perhaps some of you could do with a refresher on the rules and regulations?

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 47 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken link, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] WTF?, [ 1 ] Teal Dear Rant Sans Secret But Amusing Enough To Make A Seperate Category For Because Of The Tattoo.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Friday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2007-12-07 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
... op went to cook chili and suddenly there was an anonfarm and more people everywhere.

There should, maybe, be apologies for how the secret was worded. But also it wasn't meant as a critique or a discussion. The secret itself (as I thought secrets were intended to be) was just an outlet for the sort of immense keyboard/possibly tl;dr feelings I had at the moment. The secret itself was already tl;dr a bit in that I didn't want to say "I know everything, these people suck" but rather "I find myself questioning the play and it makes me go >O they're so OOC but I can't actively say on some of them since I haven't read the novels and some characters are novel only which makes me question if they've read the novels since I myself have seen no translations for fans to read except the official TP and the few pieces I managed to find on the forums." Which is a far more convoluted not-really-in-the-secret sense.

Sorry to be confusing, but I thought I'd toss my reasoning out there. (And, perhaps, you could argue secrets are supposed to be vague and quick with little 'background support' considering any secret with x amount of text is tl;dr or has the names of the people/rps/fandoms/whatever not features or fuzzed out.)

[identity profile] reichsfreiherr.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Nit-picking a little here since it’s the only part that I can address as someone who doesn’t particularly follow the RP anyway; but aren’t you presuming that everybody’s native language or perhaps even only language is English here? With the added presumption that even if someone only has a limited grasp of Japanese there’s no chance that they might have asked a more fluent friend to translate certain parts for them? I suspect that that might address the latter part of your secret, though of course I can’t comment on the former.

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] imperial_artist brings a valid point. XD; Because it's really accurate in our case such as neither Herit (German) or I (Argentinean) are native English speakers.

I know what your point is. You want to see more diversity and not RCO. Like I said above. In the days we have a William, he fought Isaak and tried to have Esther/Radu away from Dietrich.

And I forgot to say it..... RCO isn't a happy family. Ax/Inquisition/Empire /sunlight only killed Radu ('cause HE wanted to die) and Kaspar (because he was distracted by fighting William and Kaja took advantage in burning him). Both victories were... well, frankly weak, out of luck.

RCO has eliminating themselves with their internal conflicts. The von Neumanns and Helga vs Isaak and Dietrich it's PART of the storyline. There's even a story focused on this called Public Enemy. Helga, Melchior (pressumbly, we don't know his final fate) and Balthasar died on Isaak's and Dietrich's hands. We are plotting for political inner struggle that Caterina player (who WAS waiting for Tres to be applied recently or she had no protection. Tres and Caterina joined the Orden in Canon) will use. :) But rl constrains make us pause this.

After all, Caterina's strategy in canon was to turn Dietrich against Cain, internal conflict. RCO very powerful outside, but crumbles with internal power play. Because he (Dietrich) still hasn't got a crisis of faith, Caterina player will likely use the factions inner battle on her benefit (factions being Germanicus vs old Ostmark/Austria. Ostmark was conquered by Germanicus long ago, for the record).

(Anonymous) 2007-12-07 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I am unaware if there is a wide translation for Trinity Blood in other languages, and so can only speak to the fandom I know. Since the RP is in English I did make the assumption that many of the players are involved in the English fandom, and perhaps this is a mistake. Being part of the English fandom I can only take in what I see as ready information to that fandom and not other language fandoms (Spanish, German) for instance. So, yes, it is a narrow perspective.

I guess you're trying to show me what you think I've missed in the plot? I am not entirely sure, but this information isn't a surprise to me, I did know some of it, at least. Which I do understand, we come form different perspectives, and I am fine and dandy with that.

I find it difficult to properly articulate myself and hope to just bow out with this comment since it seems that we're not really connecting with what we're saying. Since all I feel I'm getting from this is "she's throwing all this canon at me which I either have read before/have no access to and it's not really helping anything/seems just pointless canon toting" and I am sure that by now (or perhaps, comments earlier) you have a developed a very "wow this anon is obnoxious and shallow and missing the entire point of TB" or some such.

Thank you for your time.

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
We're involved in English fandom because it's more active. TB forum has Spanish and German sections. :)

I find it difficult to properly articulate myself and hope to just bow out with this comment since it seems that we're not really connecting with what we're saying. Since all I feel I'm getting from this is "she's throwing all this canon at me which I either have read before/have no access to and it's not really helping anything/seems just pointless canon toting" and I am sure that by now (or perhaps, comments earlier) you have a developed a very "wow this anon is obnoxious and shallow and missing the entire point of TB" or some such.

No, no! Not at all. I was trying to bring up what I forgot to say last night (was late here and went to bed) when you brought up the RCO centric (which is completely truth): RCO's weakness ARE themselves, rather than their enemies, just to make it clearer. EVEN if they are winning and more numerous, they'll kill each other. It's in their nature.

Hopefully this wasn't too random, but talking to other anon reminded me I forgot to tell you this. It's just for you to know. Sorry if you felt was out place. I was absent minded last night and I forgot that clarification. -_-