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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-03 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2770 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2770 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of anime, I thought it was weird that so many female anime characters had really high pitched voices that made them sound like children. It wasn't until recently that I learned that Japanese women purposely pitch their voices higher to sound that young, and that being in your mid twenties is seen as too old. That coupled with the 'women can't move during sex/perfect woman is 'dead tuna'' thing has really made me glad I wasn't born in Japan. I don't understand why so many teenagers wish they were.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
The "dead tuna" ideal really creeps me out. Although I wonder how entrenched it is, really.

I think even Japanese people know that the "Christmas Cake" attitude (where a woman over 25 is suddenly no longer desirable) is unfair.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
The Christmas Cake thing is very 80's. In reality, the average age for marriage for Japanese women is 29.

I doubt its entrenchedness, personally. Not to say that I'm extremely knowledgeable in the sex habits of Japanese men, but from what I've gathered, Japanese guys are way more sexually open than their Western counterparts. I've certainly not been judged for being an active sex partner (not to say that I've slept with a statistically significant selection of Japanese dudes, lol)... for example, after a few drinks, I've found a number of Japanese guys that like receiving anal, but do that in Canada and they'll all be like "noooooo I'm not gay!!11" and enjoying anal is like this big dirty secret.
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[personal profile] takaraikarin 2014-08-04 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
It's a bit of an insult being called a 'dead tuna' though, especially if you're a mature woman. Like, 23+. It'll also be the age people generally stop tolerating you for 'burikko'-ing (acting cute/younger).

If you hear a male coworker quipping- 'she's cute, but she's dead tuna in bed,' that's an insult.

2D-loving otakus may have different view than the general population, of course.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Japanese women purposely pitch their voices higher to sound that young

Which makes things weird if you watch some of an anime on TV dubbed in English and then watch the rest on DVD and decide to check out the subtitled version, and suddenly all these grown women have weirdly high-pitched voices.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Japanese women purposely pitch their voices higher to sound that young

This is partially true. Anime voices are highly exaggerated, though many Japanese women do pitch their voices higher, they tend to drop the habit sometime in their thirties.

I will say, though, that from a phonological perspective, there's something about the Japanese language that gives everyone a tendency to pitch their voices higher. I've noticed this bilingual foreigners and bilingual ethnic Japanese - overwhelmingly, people of any ethnicity will speak in deeper voices in English than in Japanese. If I could hazard a guess, I would say that it has something to do with the quality of Japanese vowels and the lack of anything gutteral and back-throaty. It's all very front-mouthy.

PSA : The tuna thing is an insult

(Anonymous) 2014-08-05 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's the kind of thing middle aged salarymen would say when they're trying to seduce a barmaid is some drama, tbh.

My wife doesn't love me no more and is such a maguro in bed, woe is me~