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⌈ Secret Post #2770 ⌋

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Comments

Re: What's something "problematic" that you love?

[(Anonymous)]

sometimes more than that tbf

like, to take an example, Ezra Pound is problematic in a wayyyyyyy deeper way than that

Re: What's something "problematic" that you love?

[(Anonymous)]

Heidegger's definitely the one that bothers me most out of those. Marx and Nietzsche don't bother me much at all. For Marx, it's really easy for me to disassociate his writings and thought from the things that certain Communist regimes did in the 20th century. Similarly Nietzsche wrote some stuff that's probably misogynistic but his association with the fascists isn't his fault, it's the fault of his fascist sister and his fascist brother-in-law and a bunch of fascists wanting him on their side after he was dead.

Pound and Heidegger, though, that's definitely a different story. With Pound, the fascism is only one part of it; the virulent, intense, profound anti-Semitism is just as disturbing. And Heidegger, obviously there's not really any shades of grey, he was a straight-up Nazi. I can't ignore them, b/c Heidegger is so important and Pound is such a great poet, but yeah, definitely huge piles of salt in with it.

Re: What's something "problematic" that you love?

[(Anonymous)]

oh, man, Pound was SUCH an anti-semite. not just in terms of disliking Jewish people, but full-on "the Federal Reserve is a tool of Jewish global finance to subvert the United States" conspiracy stuff. absolutely awful. but I also think that he was a genius. I mean, his poetry is just so good - purely on the basis of their work, I think I'd take him over Eliot any day. but awful.

I get where you're coming from on Heidegger definitely, and pretty much on Marx. I'd still quibble on Nietzsche - I really don't think that Nietzsche fostered fascism in any definite way, it was such a misinterpretation of his thought, and really an intentional misrepresentation of his thought. but he's also personally complicated, as you point out. and it's certainly more than fair to take that attitude towards his work.

Re: What's something "problematic" that you love?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, wow, he sounds like this friend of my dad's who believes that stuff. Didn't know he was like that!